[AccessD] Just ANother Old Boys Club

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Fri Jul 9 10:37:47 CDT 2010


Hi Jim:

That is so heartening to hear. Keep up the good work.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Just ANother Old Boys Club

Actually, I am in the middle of a contract that states I MUST use Access
2007.  When the contract started I was supposed to use SQL Server 2005 as a
BE. But because they couldn't get the IT department to approve a server the
BE will also be Access 2007.  So the entire contract is for Access.
Talk is they are going to extend the contract for another year.  I was also
offered a permanent job as a programmer specifically for Access.  Granted,
this is for the government and agencies do have major problems getting
anything approved.  However, Access is an "approved" software package and as
such does not need to get approval for its use.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Just ANother Old Boys Club

Hi Tony:

The truth is that Access application have moved from being major a
development system for large to small businesses to little more than a nitch
product. All here that are working full-time, in the computer industry are
now supporting dozens of different products and hardware and Access has been
moved to little more than a power user tool... I do not think there is
anyone here who makes their living from just from Access anymore and if they
are, they are making plans to move their client's applications to .Net and
ASP.Net. with a MS SQL BE.

There are other DBA Lists which are reflecting those changes and have slowly
becoming more active like VB list (all things .Net and Web-based), SQL list
(all things SQL and database related) and the Tech list (all things new in
the computer world and Web issues).

Times change Tony and you as a programmer should know that better than
anyone.

Jim

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Just ANother Old Boys Club

My Friend
You insult me.
This is no longer a user group, no matter what you have to say.  This was
one of the most vibrant groups I have ever dealt with. A community willing
to express their opions on every topic. It has gotten to be just the old
boys,  disussing topics of no relevance to ACCESS programmng.  I think it is
indicating a demise of the  Access community.


Gary Kjos wrote:

>And most of us have kind of moved on from straight Access Development 
>like we did years ago. But we do still answer them when they are asked 
>most of the time. You might have to wait a day or two sometimes.
>
>I kind of do take exception to your attempt to put some guilt on list 
>members for not doing..... not sure what.
>
>I have a real job. I have a life. I give my time to the list as an 
>administrator. I answer the questions when I can. I'm not sure what 
>more you expect Tony. I think the number of new users of Access is 
>probably a lot less than it used to be, especially as Excel has had 
>it's limits raised over the most recent releases. Used to be that 
>people were forced to use Access for things when they hit the 65K row 
>limit in an Excel file. Now that bar is raised over a million rows so 
>the user community sticks with Excel for those things.
>
>Sorry you feel like we aren't living up to your expectations but we are 
>doing what we can.
>
>
>GK
>
>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Drew Wutka <DWUTKA at marlow.com> wrote:
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>>Well toss us a question!!!
>>
>>Drew
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
>>Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:02 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] Just ANother Old Boys Club
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>>Hey All
>>I have been on this list for more years than I can remember (since 
>>19930.  It has  now become an old boys list. Pretty pathethic, I don't 
>>see any respones to new questions, basically just chatter and respones 
>>from the old members (back and forth). Yes , you are going to being 
>>saying "If you don't like leave".. And probably I will. With the 
>>amount of knowledge available here it is a crime to waste it. Shane on
you.
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