[AccessD] Is IE8 crippled?

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Jun 3 14:17:55 CDT 2010


Hi Michael:

I have developed a bit of a following for being able to assemble websites
that emulate much of the features that a desktop app can provide. I would
not attribute that to my brilliance but to my ability "find" (I do not like
the word pilfer) excellent internet implementations and re-work them to any
client's specifications.

<Rant Mode: ON>
Now that the site is working perfectly, for all other browsers and is
tricked up to the hilt, the two days working on the site will most like
double by the time MS is satisfied. One day I would like to not have to add
a "*" as a prefix through out my CSS so to assist Microsoft in its various
idiosyncrasies and challenges.
</Rant Mode: OFF>

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Is IE8 crippled?



Hi Jim,

Although it has become an Access-D traditional method to discover this just 
seconds after
hitting the send key on the initial help request, there is always room for 
finesse.
Thanks for the lesson.

Michael R Mattys
Business Process Developers
www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Is IE8 crippled?


> Hi Karen and Lambert:
>
> I discovered what the problem was and the solution.
>
> Preamble: My main web development server is having some hardware issues 
> and
> is currently limping along until I can replace the motherboard, CPU and 
> Hard
> drives, etc... That server hosts my Dreamweaver and VS packages. In the
> meantime, I have been using Developers' Notepad as I know all the standard
> HTML syntax and do not necessarily need to be prompted.
>
> On a particular page, the one with the IFrame on it, I had just cut a 
> pasted
> the header off the nearest website I could find and then carried on. In my
> defense, late at night things are not always obvious:
>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
> "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="de" lang="de">
>
> And it should have read...
>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
>
> And of course the page filling the IFrame had a different header. All 
> other
> browsers except IE8 seemed unconcerned.
>
> Anyway the problem is solved and solution discovered. Thanks again for 
> your
> help.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> krosenstiel at comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Is IE8 crippled?
>
> Don't know about testing whether IE8 compatibility mode is on or off --  
> for
> a multiple-install site, right?
>
> Karen Rosenstiel
> Seattle WA USA
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 8:19:56 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Is IE8 crippled?
>
> Hi Karen:
>
> Although I am very tempted to use item 2, item 1 will have to do. Thank 
> you
> so much Karen. 8-)
>
> A fellow IT guy says that about a month ago, on a large install of 
> Windows7
> his crew removed IE8 from all the stations and are still holding high 
> hopes
> for IE9. It does seem drastic but at 2:00AM this morning, a much larger
> culling did not seem inappropriate.
>
> I was just reading an excellent MS article on how to do overlapping 
> IFrames
> so it seems so odd that they do not allow their browsers to support even
> local domain IFrames out of the box so to speak? I know what you are going
> to say about there being a 'local' compatibility mode but it does not 
> work.
>
> While we are on the subject do you have a method handy for testing whether

> a
>
> version of IE8 has set compatibility mode of or still off.
>
> TIA
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen 
> Rosenstiel
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 5:40 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Is IE8 crippled?
>
> 1. It is supposed to have a compatibility mode -- set it to be backwards
> compatible.
>
> 2. Uninstall IE8.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956197
>
> Regards,
>
> Karen Rosenstiel
> Seattle WA USA
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:03 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Access Developers
> discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Is IE8 crippled?
> Importance: High
>
> I must have been out of the loop but I have just installed the latest
> version of IE8 on one of my test computers as I am doing a series of 
> browser
>
> tests for a new client's web site.
>
> It appears the IE8 does not support IFRAMES even for local domains... This
> is going to require a major rewrite with a lot of coding... as well it
> screws up JQuery in various ways. To say the least IE8 looks like a
> nightmare.
>
> Any help or suggestions?
>
> Jim
>
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