[AccessD] Email problem. Again

Stuart McLachlan stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Mon Mar 1 16:46:12 CST 2010


In which case, they need an in-house mail server.  If they are using an in-house mail server, 
you just need to store the IP address of the server.  There are plenty of good low-cost  mail 
servers out there that are simple to set up and maintain. 

-- 
Stuart 

On 1 Mar 2010 at 12:38, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Law firm - they want copies of all emails coming and going and they want it
> in-house. 
> 
> R
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again
> 
> Why is that a problem. Google lets you have as many as you want.
> 
> Rocky.client1name at goolemail.com
> Rocky.client2name at goolemail.com
> Rocky.client3name at goolemail.com
> 
> You can even take out a business solution from them with Google docs etc,
> etc.  Google gives you tons of  stuff that MS does not.
> 
> Etc.
> 
> Max
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: 01 March 2010 20:17
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again
> 
> Yeah, but it's not for me - it's for a client and then he's going to try to
> resell the app to others.  So it has to be pretty general case. 
> 
> r 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:43 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again
> 
> 
> Well, you could always open a Gmail account with Google called
> Rocky.Clients at googlemail.com and then use  their smtp  to send out your
> client emails.  You could  also  use  it to handle their emails  to you.
> 
> Max
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
> Sent: 01 March 2010 19:38
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again
> 
> Dan,
> 
>   I've used the vbSendMail.DLL for many years, but Rocky will still have the
> same issues that he has with CDO; that is you need to know the SMTP server,
> you need and account and password, and you need to know how it wants to
> authenticate.
> 
>   vbSendMail does have some code to support finding the SMTP server via the
> DNS MX record, but it still won't help if you don't have an account to
> authenticate with nor know how the server wants to. Unfortunately, the days
> of open SMTP servers that will accept mail from anyone are gone.
> 
>   The only issue with CDO is that there are different CDO libs, but most of
> those have retired by now (NT4 was different then 2000, etc).  Other then
> that, it's similar to vbSendMail in terms of functionality.  However you are
> relying on something being installed on the client as you would be with
> Outlook.
> 
>   Like you, I've found vbSendMail easy to use and it works as a drop in even
> though it reads as VB 6.0.  I even wrote a class wrapper for it because it
> had too many options for most of what I do with mail, which worked fine.
> 
>   Haven't used IPWorks, but I believe it's Gustav that likes it a lot.
> 
> Jim.
> 
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again
> 
> Hi Rocky,
> 
> Go to http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.Asp?ID=109 to download this
> application and .dll.
> 
> This includes an application form where you can enter all your info and send
> an email.  After you register the files vbSendMail.dll and mswinsck.ocx, and
> then the email doesn't go, then it's a network issue.
> 
> I've also converted this to use with Access, and it's completely reliable.
> 
> Good luck!
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:32 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Email problem. Again
> 
> Dear List:
> 
> Couple years ago I got a lead here on how to automatically send emails with
> reports attached from an app for one of my clients client - a patent
> attorney who needs to send regular reports to all his clients.  I ended up
> with a routine I got from a link called SendSMTPMail which requires a
> reference to Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 library.  
> 
> It requires that you pass to the routine the mail server name, user name,
> password, and port.  
> 
> And it worked for many months.  Then it stopped.  It works on my machine
> with my personal but at their site, where they're using Exchange server,
> something may have changed.  Who knows?  We had a session with their network
> guy but couldn't get it to work.  
> 
> OTOH, I had the client try the routine at home on his laptop using his
> personal account and he reported that it failed.  Now I don't know for sure
> what parameters he passed to the SendSMTPMail routine so I don't know if
> they were the right ones.  But if he has the right ones, and it failed on
> his personal account, then that might point to the CDO? But that's been the
> same (AFAIK) since day 1.
> 
> In any event, 2 questions:
> 
> 1) any ideas why this would stop working?
> 
> 2) is there a more "moderne" approach to this sending of emails?  He and I
> discussed using the Outlook object - I've got that code in other apps, but
> since he has ambitions to resell this system to other law firms, it should
> be independent of Outlook.
> 
> MTIA
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> 
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