[AccessD] Visual Studio Express

David McAfee davidmcafee at gmail.com
Mon Mar 15 13:13:39 CDT 2010


They made the Access run time free starting with Access2007, didn't they?

David

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:16 AM, William Hindman
<wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
> ????? ...doesn't matter to the client which runtime is used ...only the
> developer incurs a one-time license cost in previous Access runtimes.
>
> William
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:56 PM
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Studio Express
>
>> True.  Of course then I have to come up to speed on 2007.
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> William Hindman wrote:
>>> "there is a per seat license for Access" jc
>>>
>>> ...there is zero MS license cost to the client if they use the runtime
>>> install.
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:57 PM
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Studio Express
>>>
>>>> I am with William on this one.  I have been working in Access (pre2k7)
>>>> for
>>>> so long I can code with
>>>> my eyes closed.  I have my framework, I have just so many years
>>>> experience, I cannot tell you that I
>>>> can develop an app in C# anywhere close to as fast.  But is that a fair
>>>> comparison?  And the bottom
>>>> line is that C# and .Net is in an entirely different league than Access
>>>> and VBA in terms of sheer
>>>> capability, as well as stability.
>>>>
>>>> Potentially C# is entirely license cost free to the client.  Assuming
>>>> that
>>>> I do not have to automate
>>>> Excel or Word, there is zero license cost for my application, whereas
>>>> there is a per seat license
>>>> for Access.
>>>>
>>>> C# and Access is simply not apples to apples.  It is more like an entire
>>>> box of every fruit you can
>>>> think of to a single apple.  Throw in SQL Server Express, and DMO and
>>>> suddenly you have an M1 tank
>>>> running over the apple that is Access.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sqlteam.com/article/introduction-to-sql-dmo
>>>>
>>>> As William said so well, if it has to be quick and cheap, Access is
>>>> still
>>>> King.  If it is going to
>>>> be enterprise wide and the enterprise is more than 50 or so seats, or it
>>>> is ever going to need a web
>>>> interface, or it is ever going to manage a huge database or (lots of
>>>> other
>>>> places that Access is not
>>>> a good fit)...
>>>>
>>>> I love Access, but I am learning a much more powerful tool, and C# / SQL
>>>> Server is a MUCH more
>>>> powerful tool.
>>>>
>>>> John W. Colby
>>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doug Steele wrote:
>>>>> William, would you say that the time you now take to develop an app in
>>>>> VS
>>>>> is
>>>>> comparable to the time you would have taken to develop the same app in
>>>>> Access?  I've done one small project this year in C# and it probably
>>>>> took
>>>>> me
>>>>> five times as long as Access would have.  I realize that I will get
>>>>> faster
>>>>> with practice, but how much?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:47 AM, William Hindman <
>>>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> gustav
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...there are so many such goodies in VS that you can't even cover the
>>>>>> highlights in a single post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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