David McAfee
davidmcafee at gmail.com
Mon Mar 15 13:13:39 CDT 2010
They made the Access run time free starting with Access2007, didn't they? David On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:16 AM, William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote: > ????? ...doesn't matter to the client which runtime is used ...only the > developer incurs a one-time license cost in previous Access runtimes. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:56 PM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Studio Express > >> True. Of course then I have to come up to speed on 2007. >> >> ;) >> >> John W. Colby >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> >> William Hindman wrote: >>> "there is a per seat license for Access" jc >>> >>> ...there is zero MS license cost to the client if they use the runtime >>> install. >>> >>> William >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:57 PM >>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Studio Express >>> >>>> I am with William on this one. I have been working in Access (pre2k7) >>>> for >>>> so long I can code with >>>> my eyes closed. I have my framework, I have just so many years >>>> experience, I cannot tell you that I >>>> can develop an app in C# anywhere close to as fast. But is that a fair >>>> comparison? And the bottom >>>> line is that C# and .Net is in an entirely different league than Access >>>> and VBA in terms of sheer >>>> capability, as well as stability. >>>> >>>> Potentially C# is entirely license cost free to the client. Assuming >>>> that >>>> I do not have to automate >>>> Excel or Word, there is zero license cost for my application, whereas >>>> there is a per seat license >>>> for Access. >>>> >>>> C# and Access is simply not apples to apples. It is more like an entire >>>> box of every fruit you can >>>> think of to a single apple. Throw in SQL Server Express, and DMO and >>>> suddenly you have an M1 tank >>>> running over the apple that is Access. >>>> >>>> http://www.sqlteam.com/article/introduction-to-sql-dmo >>>> >>>> As William said so well, if it has to be quick and cheap, Access is >>>> still >>>> King. If it is going to >>>> be enterprise wide and the enterprise is more than 50 or so seats, or it >>>> is ever going to need a web >>>> interface, or it is ever going to manage a huge database or (lots of >>>> other >>>> places that Access is not >>>> a good fit)... >>>> >>>> I love Access, but I am learning a much more powerful tool, and C# / SQL >>>> Server is a MUCH more >>>> powerful tool. >>>> >>>> John W. Colby >>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Doug Steele wrote: >>>>> William, would you say that the time you now take to develop an app in >>>>> VS >>>>> is >>>>> comparable to the time you would have taken to develop the same app in >>>>> Access? I've done one small project this year in C# and it probably >>>>> took >>>>> me >>>>> five times as long as Access would have. I realize that I will get >>>>> faster >>>>> with practice, but how much? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Doug >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:47 AM, William Hindman < >>>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> gustav >>>>>> >>>>>> ...there are so many such goodies in VS that you can't even cover the >>>>>> highlights in a single post. >>>>>> >>>>>> William >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AccessD mailing list >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >