[AccessD] Leave a bound form in a library.

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Wed Sep 1 14:22:08 CDT 2010


John:

Ahh, got you. 

When just starting an app, delays in getting from initialization to "ready
to go" are, unless outlandish, and no graphic indicator of progress, are
irrelevant. No one cares about a start delay just an operational delay...so
with the theory in mind I front load everything I can.

Jim

 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Leave a bound form in a library.

Jim,

I am discussing where the data comes from that is displayed in the form.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Jim Lawrence wrote:
> John:
> 
> I have not been following this thread carefully but does not a form and/or
> module loaded/called from either the local MDB or a remote one, reside in
> memory until a unhandled error occurs or the FE MDB is exited?
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:10 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Leave a bound form in a library.
> 
> Shamil,
> 
> that workaround only has to be applied to the forms stored in my library.
> Obviously there is a 
> development cost but after that it works fine.  I don't have to do that
for
> the forms in the 
> application that I am applying security to.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>> John --
>>
>> I see. But then why rebinding form in Open or Load event to a query,
which
>> uses IN '' clause, is considered as not so efficient workaround there?
>>
>> -- Shamil
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:00 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Leave a bound form in a library.
>>
>>  > Did that client have two FEs stored in the same folder?
>>
>> Yes.  Of course I can work around the issue but I prefer to have it "just
>> work".  Of course having 
>> the tables in the Fe itself introduces issues as well.  There is no free
>> lunch.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>>> John --
>>>
>>> Yes, I "mean linking the tables from the FE back into the lib".
>>> Why not "clone" library database for every FE?
>>> Did that client have two FEs stored in the same folder?
>>>
>>> -- Shamil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:38 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Leave a bound form in a library.
>>>
>>> Shamil,
>>>
>>> I take it you mean linking the tables from the FE back into the lib so
>> that
>>> the form opens seeing 
>>> the security info for the FE.
>>>
>>> I did something like this but ended up with problems when the client
>> wanted
>>> to use the library for 
>>> two different FEs which needed different security info.
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>>>> Hi John --
>>>>
>>>> What about linked tables?
>>>> I used them in library MS Access databases and that worked well for me
>> and
>>>> for my customers in many projects.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> -- Shamil
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:38 AM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] Leave a bound form in a library.
>>>>
>>>> One of the challenges of using an "addin" library is placing forms in
> the
>>>> add-in but having them 
>>>> load records from the FE.  For example if I make a bound form to load
> the
>>>> users table but I leave 
>>>> that form in the library (add-in), then when the form opens it tries to
>>> load
>>>> the data from the table 
>>>> in the library.  IOW a form tries to pull its data from whatever
>> container
>>>> it is placed in.
>>>>
>>>> One way around that is to use the "in 'MyFePath\MyDbName.mdb' syntax
> that
>>> is
>>>> valid in access.  As an 
>>>> example SQL to pull the records from the FE might look as follows:
>>>>
>>>> SELECT * FROM usystblPLSObjFrm in 'C:\Dev\C2DbPLS\C2DbPLS.mda' ORDER BY
>>>> PLSF_Name;
>>>>
>>>> This would obviously pull all fields from the table usystblPLSObjFrm
>>>> physically located in 
>>>> C:\Dev\C2DbPLS\C2DbPLS.mda.
>>>>
>>>> This is a PITA and requires jumping through hoops but that is the only
>>>> solution that I know of.
>>>>
>>>> If any of you know of another solution please let me know since I do
> have
>>> to
>>>> get adept at hoop 
>>>> jumping to do it my way.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
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