jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Mon Sep 13 16:00:47 CDT 2010
20,000 feet over open ocean, out the door without a parachute. Simple enough concept. Taken from a certain South American dictator that used the technique to get rid of anyone he didn't like. ;) John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com On 9/13/2010 3:15 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote: > At the same time there should be an explanation of Colbyizing as a > consequence of using certain programming techniques. > > R > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brad Marks > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:03 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] The Famous Bound/Unbound Debate > > All, > > Compared to most of you, I am a relative newcomer to the world of Access. > > Over the past few months, I have noticed a number of references to the > Bound/Unbound debate. It sounds like this was a really hotly contested > issue at one time and that now people almost joke about it. > > For us newcomers, it would be nice if someone could explain this issue at a > high level and perhaps spell out the major pros and cons of each side of the > debate. > > It is not my intent to start a Web-war, I would just like to better > understand what is going on here. > > Thanks, > Brad > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:53 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Server Express - true skinny > > Exactly. Which is part of the premise of the bound/unbound debate. > With unbound forms, where data is written in a split second chunk, the > stability of much higher user volume goes up tremendously! > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:46 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Server Express - true skinny > > Dan, > > That is more or less true, but the real bottle neck with a JET based DB has > never been .LDB file operations. > > With JET, all processing is on the client side. The server acts as nothing > more then a file share. > > The trick with keeping a connection open to the BE avoids the repeated > closing/opening of the LDB and DB files and all the associated overhead with > removing/adding an active user under JET. Some apps benefit from that, > other not because they already maintain a connection one way or another. > The problem can be further compounded if the server has OPLOCKS on (which > allows client side caching of files). JET doesn't need this as the cache is > already on the client side. So it's simply a wasted effort on the servers > part. And by default, OPLOCKs is enabled on Windows servers. > > The real restriction of JET is just one of stability. With no server side > process to perform a rollback if a disconnect occurs, anytime that happens > in the middle of write operations your fair game for corruption. So by > the > time you get past 30 or 40 stations, it's just hard to keep the environment > stable. > > To prove that point, you can easily run a read-only/reporting JET based app > with 200+ users without issues. > > It's not an issue of performance, but one of stability. > > Jim. > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary > and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in > its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. > You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, > dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon > this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. > >