[AccessD] [dba-SQLServer] Users in SQL Server

Doug Murphy dw-murphy at cox.net
Sun Dec 4 14:20:22 CST 2011


Don't know about this book but I try and get all my tech books for kindle
these days. Have a kindle reader and have the pc reader on my desktop and
laptop. That way I can share the book between my devices. I like it. Much
less clutter on the book shelves. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:26 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-SQLServer] Users in SQL Server

Thanks for the suggestions.  Has anyone ever used a kindle edition of books
like this?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 12/4/2011 12:36 PM, Mark Simms wrote:
> John - as you are discovering (the hard way I might add), SQL Security 
> is a whole specialty onto itself....in fact, there have been books 
> written about just that.
> Here's one that may be helpful:
> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Server-Administrators-Pocket-Consultan
> t/dp/0
> 73562738X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1323019853&sr=1-4
> and here's another:
> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Server-2008-Management-Administration/
> dp/067
> 233044X/ref=pd_sim_b_6
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd- 
>> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:14 AM
>> To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server; Access Developers discussion 
>> and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-SQLServer] Users in SQL Server
>>
>>   >I just discovered that if I delete the user out in that database 
>> and then set the rights through the user back in the server security 
>> stuff it happily accepts my changes and re-adds the user to the 
>> database.
>>
>> Unfortunately after I did this delete / re-add rigamarole I 
>> discovered that all of the rights to objects in the database were 
>> removed.  For example I had rights to execute stored procedures 
>> assigned to these users but after deleting the users the rights to 
>> execute were lost.
>>
>> Sigh.
>>
>> This SQL Server Users stuff is really developer unfriendly.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>>
>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>> when you do not believe in it
>>
>> On 12/4/2011 10:59 AM, jwcolby wrote:
>>>
>>> Several times now I have run into an issue where SQL Server does not
>> have a pair of users I use for
>>> my Access application called DiscoAdmin and DiscoApp. The problem is
>> that one of the the databases
>>> that I am picking up on that server was already set up and has those
>> users. When I try to set those
>>> users up in the server's security it tells me that "the server
>> principal 'DiscoApp' already exists.
>>> Basically I am able to create the user but not assign rights -
>> db_reader, db_writer etc.
>>>
>>> I have always been fuzzy about how this stuff works and I just need
>> an explanation of why it won't
>>> allow me to set these rights even though the user exists and the
>> check boxes are enabled when I
>>> select that database. I just discovered that if I delete the user 
>>> out
>> in that database and then set
>>> the rights through the user back in the server security stuff it
>> happily accepts my changes and
>>> re-adds the user to the database. This just seems strange. If I 
>>> don't
>> do this rigamarole then I have
>>> a DiscoApp in the database with a set of rights for that database 
>>> but
>> when I look at it back at the
>>> server level it does not reflect those rights for that user for that
>> database.
>>>
>>> Any assistance great fully accepted.
>>
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