[AccessD] I should be able to do this - resolved

DJK (John) Robinson djkr at msn.com
Wed Dec 7 17:11:59 CST 2011


A place I worked for a while had Christmas Day fall in the fourth half of the third month, for similar reasons - yes,
the *fourth* half!  Never assume anything ...

John


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
Sent: 07 December 2011 22:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] I should be able to do this - resolved


" and in my heart of hearts I did know it."

Heh... You know Tina, over the years I have had many of these moments, and in every instance it has come back to bite
me.  And the longer you leave it, the greater the pain.  These days when I get that feeling, I make sure I fix the
problem immediately - even if it seems like a lot of unnecessary work.  I guess the golden rule is nothing should be
fixed and everything can (and probably will) change.

I have a great example of "months in the year"  Sure, everyone knows they should be 12, but I had one year, in one
company where they had to make it 11 months in a year instead  - they need to do this as the company had been purchased
by another company who used a different report cycle.  To get the cycles aligned they had to effective drop a month.  In
short,  everyone who had stuff hardcoded regarding months and periods etc had a lot of work to do...  A good example of
something that will never ever change, changing.

Cheers
Darryl.



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 8:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] I should be able to do this - resolved

Dear Friends,

Of course, you were right, I should not have had the Stu_Counselor field in the students table in the first place.
There's a story behind this and a lesson learned again and again, but I think for the last time, this time.  This all
began as a little database for a counselor friend of mine, just to track the students for whom he and his colleague were
responsible.  There were never going to be any more counselors, so I did make a lookup field in the students table that
had a value list - just the two counselors' names.  Okay, I should have known that there would ultimately be other
counselors, and in my heart of hearts I did know it.

When the remodeling time came, I did add a table for the counselors and a numeric field in the students table.  BUT, I
overlooked the existing references to the Stu_Counselor field in the queries that underlay the reports.  So, when I saw
that records were not appearing for the new counselors, in those queries, I started down the wrong path, trying to force
updates into the Stu_Counselor field based on the Counselor_ID selection.  I didn't want to walk through all the queries
and all the reports to find the old links to the Stu_Counselor field.  Yet, that is the only real solution.

I am almost finished examining every query and report now.  Thank you all for gently saying "WHAT!!! You shouldn't be
doing THAT!!!"  You are right.  I won't do it again.

T

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields at torchlake.com
231-322-2787


On 12/4/2011 1:47 PM, Tina Norris Fields wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> Okay, I have a form with a combo-box for selecting the counselor who
> will be assigned to the student whose record is displayed in the 
> form.  Once that is updated, I want the matching name of the counselor 
> to placed in the student's record.
>
> So combo-box is looking into the tblCounselor, which has two fields
> Counselor_ID and Counselor_LName.  Once the choice is made, I want to 
> update the field Stu_Counselor in the tblStudent with the name found 
> in tblCounselor.Counselor_LName.
>
> I'm writing gibberish in my AfterUpdate event and I need to be
> rescued.  Any help waking up my brain?
>
> Thanks,
> T
>
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