Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Feb 10 14:43:40 CST 2011
Hi Shamil: That is a series of good question. I am basically unfamiliar with the RESTful concept as, interesting enough; it only caught my eye a couple of days ago. There are a number of people working a GNU JQuery RESTful API but there are not finished products out there yet, that I am aware of. For example: http://mike-hostetler.com/representational-state-transfer-rest-client-testin g JAVA and PHP programmers seem to be a little ahead in this right now. All the major site have FEs build: Facebook, Amazon, EBay etc. As for a full database interface with all the bells and whistles, a complete CRUD type thing; again no complete interface. I have my own ASP.Net/JQuery hybrids. Here is one of my sources for the initial base code but I have removed much of the BE direct processing and replaced that connection with JQuery AJAX calls: http://www.dotnetfunda.com/articles/article970-aspnet-gridview--jquery-tips- and-tricks--part-1-.aspx There are many other ones out there again using PHP/JAVA. For example: (watch the wrap..) http://www.prodevtips.com/2010/01/10/simple-jquery-and-php-crud-interface/?u tm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+prodevtips/LVkG+(Pro DevTips+-+dev+related+notes+and+tutorials) ...and... http://www.ifadey.com/2010/07/crud-using-jquery-and-codeigniter-iii/ Connecting to the database can always be a danger as if some outside and unauthorized individual gets access to your UI they may find a way to hack in. To that end most of my clients run their sites as only Intranet or through their company VPNs. Recently, I was shown an excellent open source GNU product at: http://openvpn.net/ (You do have to pay for multiple remote connections as it is needed to cover the company's hardware costs but it is really cheap.) This functions similar to Hamachi/Logmein and allows you as the senior tech to encompass a fixed set of users and offices anywhere in the world. I am currently working on a JQuery POS (header/detail/footer), in my spare time but it is turning out to be a huge time-consuming project, with many re-writes, as I continue to learn more, with hundreds (thousands?) of lines of code...all the heavy lifting, like the data management will be done at the back end. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:01 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] From a reader Hi Jim -- Thank you for your reference on 1st JavaScript Editor. I have question on jQuery, which I'm not familiar with at all, and RESTFul web services, which I know just a bit of: - assuming I have a RESTFul webservice performing whole CRUD set of operations for a given datamodel/database - would it be possible (in principle) to develop a pure HTML + jQuery web application with paged (datasheet) forms and usual view/add/edit,delete forms - are there any jQuery samples for such solutions? Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: 10 ??????? 2011 ?. 3:21 To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] From a reader I write a lot of an application with VS but then go in and clean it up and speed it up with a healthy dose of manual intervention. :-) I love the programmers notepad as it produces nice structure, a bit of code validation and does not suck up 2GB of RAM and then there is a little JavaScript IDE called the 1st JavaScript Editor (It costs a few bucks but worth it) and finally Firefox's' Firebug. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:37 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] From a reader Hi Shamil and Jim > And "Razor(CSHTML)" seems to be so much classical ASP like? Yes, but who - except for Drew - is writing code this way these days? I know you can create a complete site with Notepad only and lots of handwork but why? Don't you use Visual Studio or the like to create the in-line code? /gustav >>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 09-02-2011 12:24 >>> Hi Jim -- MS does realize the issues "bound" to classical ASP.NET view engine - they seems to have a solution: Introducing "Razor" - a new view engine for ASP.NET http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2010/07/02/introducing-razor.aspx It "works with any Text Editor: Razor doesn't require a specific tool and enables you to be productive in any plain old text editor (notepad works great)." :) Well, but this "Razor" view engine seems to be bound to ASP.NET MVC? No, wait.... "Razor" view engine and DNN - they say it will be part of DNN 5.6.2 http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Resources/Blogs/tabid/825/BlogID/15/Default.aspx So - ASP.NET - "Razor" View Engine - jQuery (it's supported by MS) ===================== Totals as a very advanced yet lightweight, fluid (flexible) Web development platform resulting in clean HTML "by definition"? (I'm kidding about the latter of course - one have to be very skilled in HTML and CSS to produce clean HTML IMO). And "Razor(CSHTML)" seems to be so much classical ASP like? Thank you. -- Shamil -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com