[AccessD] (Don't) Force Closing the FE

Doug Murphy dw-murphy at cox.net
Mon Feb 21 13:29:44 CST 2011


It uses a dll not form timer as far as I can see. 

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 > I just ran across the following utility for shutting down an inactive
Access  > application. Does not us a form timer.

I went to the web site.  It says nothing about not using a timer.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

On 2/21/2011 12:58 PM, Doug Murphy wrote:
> Jennifer,
>
> I just ran across the following utility for shutting down an inactive 
> Access application. Does not us a form timer.
> http://www.peterssoftware.com/isd.htm. I have not used this so can not 
> comment on functionality, but it does look promising.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer 
> Gross
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:49 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] (Don't) Force Closing the FE
>
> Hi Robert and Gustav,
>
> I have to get all users out of the database at the end of day in order 
> to do maintenance or make data structure changes to an evolving 
> database.  I am open to any suggestions including learning more 
> sophisticated coding than I am used to . . .
>
> I don't have any long running processes that would take more than a 
> minute or two, so checking for inactivity every 30 minutes, with shut 
> down after 60 minutes idle is reasonable for what I am working on now.
>
> Jennifer
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:41 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] (Don't) Force Closing the FE
>
> Hi Robert et al
>
> I can confirm this observation.
> It just doesn't work reliably and can cause serious trouble for data 
> consistency unless you somehow - while any important function runs  - 
> inhibits the timer, which may imply coding on a higher level than you 
> are used to - using classes, WithEvents or the like.
>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> robert at servicexp.com 14-02-2011 23:09>>>
> The only problem with a "timer" solution is that in heavily used / 
> complicated databases, running a timer can cause some very unexpected 
> result with other code procedures. For some reason Access (at least 
> with the programs I use to build (large complex)) has never liked 
> timers, internal
> (form) or external (API).. I think it has something to do with running 
> them in the same thread Access uses.
>
> I had to use network commands inside of access (ActiveX) to shut a 
> user down.  Not automatic, but very effective (and more complicated)
>
> WBR
> Robert
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer 
> Gross
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 4:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Force Closing the FE
>
> Beautiful.  I knew this had to be a problem that others had faced in 
> the past.  Was always able to get around it because of my network 
> permissions - with this database I can't do that.
>
> Appreciate all your help - including the idea of an entry/exit log - 
> that's a great one.
>
> Jennifer
>
>
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