[AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla)

Hi Gustav & Jim,

I have mentioned Orachard here in this thread already on 17 of Jan 2011:

<<<<<<
I have just recently found what could become a real DNN rival in long run:

Orchard CMS
http://orchardproject.net/

as it comes from MS guys, and it doesn't have all that "legacy burden" DNN
has got historically as its development started from ASP.NET 1.1 AFAIK...
>>>>>> 

I'd bet it could become "DNN killer" in long run or at least it will "eat" a
large part of DNN market.
Still I'd use DNN these days (just my opinion/intention) and I'd wait a
couple of years or so to see what Orachard will become by that time...

MVC is actually an "ASP.NET killer" kind of applications IMO - I mean MVC is
"riding on ASP.NET engine" but doesn't use ASP.NET native features that much
as usual ASP.NET apps do...

I have been developing ASP.NET applications using Model View Controller
(MVC) software design pattern and Test Driven Design approach from the very
beginning of my development in ASP.NET. 
I personally doubts that MVC is a correct way to go currently as it imposes
rather rigid structure on ASP.NET projects (did that change in ASP.NET MVC
3.0?). I can be wrong. Just my opinion.

I'm not defending "ASP.NET native features and architecture" - they result
in slow (several seconds) start-up of even relatively small apps, which use
Web Forms etc. - and ASP.NET MVC is a different story, better one, much
quicker start-up, but as I noted I do not like that ASP.NET MVC imposes a
rigid structure on ASP.NET apps - when that will be changed I'd definitely
switch to ASP.NET MVC - is that changed in ASP.NET MVC 3.0 already?

Thank you.

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Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 20 ?????? 2011 ?. 18:57
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla)

Hi Jim

Well, it seems to fly a bit lower using one motor only, but that may be just
fine for those simple projects you also meet. 
Perhaps even a normal user will be able to maintain such a site?

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 20-01-2011 16:36 >>>
Thanks for the poste Gustav. This looks very interesting.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla)

Hi all

And don't forget Microsoft's own Open-Source project, Orchard which is MVC
based:

http://www.orchardproject.net/ 

/gustav


>>> gustav at cactus.dk 16-01-2011 18:41 >>>
Hi Jim

That depends, but if you are looking for CMS-style systems, at least two
top-notch Open Source systems for .NET exist.

Composite C1:
http://www.composite.net/C1.aspx 

Umbraco:
http://www.umbraco.org 

They are quite different - and both different from DNN - and I haven't had a
need for either of them so I cannot advice further.

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 16-01-2011 18:01 >>>
Hi Ken:

To be honest, I have never been able to get a client fully self-sufficient
and after 30 plus have basically given up on it. ;-)

Joomla, like DNN may not be the product I need. So far, when building web
sites I use ASP.Net to build the mock up/lay our and then go in and remove
the extra pieces (lots and lots of extra pieces as every possible option is
code managed), while stuffing in some of my own code. It is not a super fast
construction method but it is getting faster and it is quicker than building
the whole site from scratch.

I do not know if any other person uses this crude hack method but is there a
good pre-existing clean frame-work so I do not need to re-invent the wheel.

Jim


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