[AccessD] Conditional keep together

Boyd Trimmell accesscoach at hitechcoach.com
Thu Jan 20 14:52:03 CST 2011


Debbie,

With the keep together property set to no, have you tried setting the it to
start  on a  new page for each group?

Boyd Trimmell 
aka HiTechCoach at UtterAccess.com and other support sites
Microsoft Access MVP 2010 ( MVP Profile )



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Conditional keep together

The section starts printing on the first page and continues to page 2.  
Subsequent groups may get split over 2 pages though and is not what the
customer wants.

Debbie

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:03 PM, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:

> What happens if you set the section to Keep Together with First 
> Record?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:02 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Conditional keep together
>
> Section or header both crash. I get this program has encountered an 
> unexpected error and has to close. It backs up. Repairs and compacts 
> and restarts every time I put it in any type of format event.
>
> Debbie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 11:47 AM, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On format of the report or the header or the footer section? What 
>> kind of crash?
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:40 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Conditional keep together
>>
>> I started to put a conditional keep together in code on format. This 
>> actually crashes Access. Only in the on open event will it work.
>>
>> I have started experimenting with adding a conditional page break. I 
>> can get it to work only when I want, but the records still start on 
>> page 2.
>> I just
>> get a page break in the middle of page 2 rather than moving the first 
>> part of the records to page 1
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:21 AM, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it a function of how many records there are in the group?  I 
>>> wouldn't want to hard code a test for a specific data value if I 
>>> could avoid it.
>>>
>>> You can, of course, set the keep together property through code, but 
>>> the question is where to do it?
>>>
>>> I've never tried this but I'd experiment with the Format event of 
>>> the group header.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:48 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] Conditional keep together
>>>
>>> I have a report with 2 grouping levels. The first group is keep 
>>> together with first record and the second is keep all records 
>>> together on one page.
>>> 99.9% of the time this is perfect.
>>>
>>> Now I have the situation where my first keep all records together 
>>> group fits perfectly on a page all by itself. This means I have a 
>>> report header, further group header, then a page break. Not until 
>>> page
>>> 2 do I see this first set of detail records because if the keep 
>>> together.
>>>
>>> I do not want to set this to keep with first record just to cover 
>>> this one instance with one user, but I have to admit it is pretty 
>>> awful.
>>> Is
>>> there any way to determine that this has happened ahead of time and 
>>> reset the keep together property?  Better yet only reset it on the 
>>> group having problems.
>>>
>>> I can set the keep together, but only on open. By the time I can 
>>> tell if it is needed, my window of opportunity is lost and I am 
>>> better off just setting this group to keep together with first 
>>> record and just be dine with it.
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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