[AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla)

Hi Gustav --

No problem, I just wanted to note that I share your and Jim's opinions that
Orchard is an interesting and promising open source CMS. 

Thank you.

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Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 21 ?????? 2011 ?. 14:10
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla)

Hi Shamil

Oops, I missed your previous reference to Orchard, sorry. 
It was because I saw a review of the admin features I finally paid notice.

/gustav


>>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 20-01-2011 18:47 >>>
Hi Gustav & Jim,

I have mentioned Orachard here in this thread already on 17 of Jan 2011:

<<<<<<
I have just recently found what could become a real DNN rival in long run:

Orchard CMS
http://orchardproject.net/ 

as it comes from MS guys, and it doesn't have all that "legacy burden" DNN
has got historically as its development started from ASP.NET 1.1 AFAIK...
>>>>>> 

I'd bet it could become "DNN killer" in long run or at least it will "eat" a
large part of DNN market.
Still I'd use DNN these days (just my opinion/intention) and I'd wait a
couple of years or so to see what Orachard will become by that time...

MVC is actually an "ASP.NET killer" kind of applications IMO - I mean MVC is
"riding on ASP.NET engine" but doesn't use ASP.NET native features that much
as usual ASP.NET apps do...

I have been developing ASP.NET applications using Model View Controller
(MVC) software design pattern and Test Driven Design approach from the very
beginning of my development in ASP.NET. 
I personally doubts that MVC is a correct way to go currently as it imposes
rather rigid structure on ASP.NET projects (did that change in ASP.NET MVC
3.0?). I can be wrong. Just my opinion.

I'm not defending "ASP.NET native features and architecture" - they result
in slow (several seconds) start-up of even relatively small apps, which use
Web Forms etc. - and ASP.NET MVC is a different story, better one, much
quicker start-up, but as I noted I do not like that ASP.NET MVC imposes a
rigid structure on ASP.NET apps - when that will be changed I'd definitely
switch to ASP.NET MVC - is that changed in ASP.NET MVC 3.0 already?

Thank you.

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Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 20 ?????? 2011 ?. 18:57
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla)

Hi Jim

Well, it seems to fly a bit lower using one motor only, but that may be just
fine for those simple projects you also meet. 
Perhaps even a normal user will be able to maintain such a site?

/gustav


>>> accessd at shaw.ca 20-01-2011 16:36 >>>
Thanks for the poste Gustav. This looks very interesting.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla)

Hi all

And don't forget Microsoft's own Open-Source project, Orchard which is MVC
based:

http://www.orchardproject.net/ 

/gustav



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