Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Wed Jan 26 14:51:16 CST 2011
Hi Gustav -- That's an interesting information (ASPX/HTML based CMS administration (as e.g. it's implementd in DNN inow) is a bit of PITA - that should be corrected (soon) I hope by using AJAX)... Although I must say JavaScript/jQuery mastering, which Jim mentioned is coming firstplace/before SilverLight in my priorities list. We should have find how to make daytime lasting 72 hours (not even 48) to get all that new technlogies mastered... Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 25 ?????? 2011 ?. 15:33 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] CMS: AxCMS.net for Silverlight (was: Orchard (was:Joomla)) Hi all I wondered if a CMS using Silverlight could be found, and this popped up: http://www.axcms.net/ It claims to be 100% free for the asking by registering (mark Download at the top): http://www.axcms.net/Register.AxCMS /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 20-01-2011 21:13 >>> Hi Guys: That is great information to know. As you are aware my main focus is towards the web as I believe that is where everything is going, eventually and I would like to be a little ahead of the curve. ASP.Net is my tool of choice but its plug-ins have a habit of extending its processing modules from the desktop back to the server. This of course requires going in the boiler-plated code and hacking away much of the hard wired connections. (I should really learn to roll my own from scratch... eventually I will have built my own frame-work frame-work) I think the tightest link between the FE and BE should be AJAX. OTOH I have been getting up to speed in JavaScript and it various flavours. JQuery/JNode and then there is lots of cut and paste code modules. One of the most interesting developments is Node.js. It allows you to run superfast JavaScript right off the server; http://nodejs.org/ (You can actually build your own proprietary web server with the product is you are so inclined) and there is even a place to test code functions; http://jsapp.us/ As more functionality migrates to the web the market Gurus are saying that products like the iPad are where the PC market is going. And finally if you need anymore proof of the webs maturity check out the following; http://plugins.jquery.com/project/clippy ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:47 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla) Hi Gustav & Jim, I have mentioned Orachard here in this thread already on 17 of Jan 2011: <<<<<< I have just recently found what could become a real DNN rival in long run: Orchard CMS http://orchardproject.net/ as it comes from MS guys, and it doesn't have all that "legacy burden" DNN has got historically as its development started from ASP.NET 1.1 AFAIK... >>>>>> I'd bet it could become "DNN killer" in long run or at least it will "eat" a large part of DNN market. Still I'd use DNN these days (just my opinion/intention) and I'd wait a couple of years or so to see what Orachard will become by that time... MVC is actually an "ASP.NET killer" kind of applications IMO - I mean MVC is "riding on ASP.NET engine" but doesn't use ASP.NET native features that much as usual ASP.NET apps do... I have been developing ASP.NET applications using Model View Controller (MVC) software design pattern and Test Driven Design approach from the very beginning of my development in ASP.NET. I personally doubts that MVC is a correct way to go currently as it imposes rather rigid structure on ASP.NET projects (did that change in ASP.NET MVC 3.0?). I can be wrong. Just my opinion. I'm not defending "ASP.NET native features and architecture" - they result in slow (several seconds) start-up of even relatively small apps, which use Web Forms etc. - and ASP.NET MVC is a different story, better one, much quicker start-up, but as I noted I do not like that ASP.NET MVC imposes a rigid structure on ASP.NET apps - when that will be changed I'd definitely switch to ASP.NET MVC - is that changed in ASP.NET MVC 3.0 already? Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 20 ?????? 2011 ?. 18:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla) Hi Jim Well, it seems to fly a bit lower using one motor only, but that may be just fine for those simple projects you also meet. Perhaps even a normal user will be able to maintain such a site? /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 20-01-2011 16:36 >>> Thanks for the poste Gustav. This looks very interesting. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Orchard (was: Joomla) Hi all And don't forget Microsoft's own Open-Source project, Orchard which is MVC based: http://www.orchardproject.net/ /gustav >>> gustav at cactus.dk 16-01-2011 18:41 >>> Hi Jim That depends, but if you are looking for CMS-style systems, at least two top-notch Open Source systems for .NET exist. Composite C1: http://www.composite.net/C1.aspx Umbraco: http://www.umbraco.org They are quite different - and both different from DNN - and I haven't had a need for either of them so I cannot advice further. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com