[AccessD] Windows 8

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Wed Nov 30 12:30:15 CST 2011


Apparently it is available but...

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 11/30/2011 12:35 PM, Charlotte Foust wrote:
> Don't you have swype available, John?  It's in the Android OS, and I
> couldn't live without it.  When I have to work with the virtual keyboard on
> my Nook ereader, I get very frustrated having to tap each letter separately!
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:29 AM, jwcolby<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>wrote:
>
>>>     As far as pixel precision, it's really a matter of scaling, but do
>> you really need that?  No.
>>
>> One of my chief irritations with my Droid is the virtual keyboard,
>> constantly shifting to another keyboard to get at the numbers or special
>> characters.  And try to position the pointer with my fat fingertip to get
>> at a specific character to back space over...
>>
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>>
>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>> when you do not believe in it
>>
>> On 11/29/2011 8:52 AM, Jim Dettman wrote:
>>
>>> Stuart,
>>>
>>>    I would agree to your points to a certain extent, but the main point
>>> with
>>> touch screen interfaces is that they are variable, which is a very
>>> powerful
>>> thing.
>>>
>>>    Like your current keyboard layout?  If not to bad, your stuck with it.
>>> Not so with a keyboard simulated on a touch screen.
>>>
>>>    I'd also throw in the old saying "Today's science fiction is tomorrow's
>>> fact".   Watch an episode of the original Star Trek; everything is
>>> buttons.
>>> Now watch one of Star Trek Next Generation; everything is soft; consoles,
>>> hall displays, etc.  There's not a real button anywhere.  I don't doubt it
>>> will be long before we are living like that.  Everything will be touch.
>>>
>>>    Now take a look at the reality side; the aviation industry for example.
>>> Just about everything in aircraft avionics uses HUD's and multi-function
>>> displays (which have physical buttons, but they are "soft" in that their
>>> function changes based on the display).   And of course we can see where
>>> consumer electronics is going.
>>>
>>>    When you come right down to it, what's the difference between typing on
>>> a
>>> keyboard and touching a display?  Really none (you push something with
>>> your
>>> finger).
>>>
>>>    Something that would showcase that quite nicely is terminal emulation.
>>>   I
>>> need to remember that the "DO" key on a VAX is one combination under this
>>> emulation, another under this emulation, and different under a third.
>>> And
>>> not all physical numeric keypads have the same layout, which is really
>>> important in the VAX world.  I would much rather see and use a virtual
>>> keyboard on a touch screen.
>>>
>>>    Take a look at the original Tron movie sometime; virtual touch keyboard
>>> built into the desktop.
>>>
>>>    As far as pixel precision, it's really a matter of scaling, but do you
>>> really need that?  No.  In fact most people slow their mice down and only
>>> worry about getting into the general area of where they need to be and not
>>> getting to a specific pixel.  Just consider command buttons; I bet you
>>> make
>>> them larger then the text they display; why is that?
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>]
>>> On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 08:09 PM
>>>
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "working with" virutal documents.
>>>
>>> If you mean creating/editing documents, give me a decent keyboard and the
>>> fine resolution of
>>> a mouse pointer or stylus please.   How do you get anywhere near pixel
>>> precision with a
>>> fingertip?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Nov 2011 at 4:25, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>>>
>>>   Darryl --
>>>>
>>>> Working with "virtual documents" by hands - two hands - on multi-touch
>>>> displays is no doubt more ergonomic and intuitive than using mouse...
>>>> The next logical step are "virtual desktops" - horizontally mounted
>>>> displays, "virtual blackboards" with "virtual keyboards" etc. - that's
>>>> another technological revolution of the ways of communicating with
>>>> computers by using a broad range of both hands gestures and voice...
>>>>
>>>> The next should probably be "virtual holographic displays" and 3D
>>>>
>>> communication with them...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> -- Shamil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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