Darryl Collins
darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au
Wed Nov 30 16:48:58 CST 2011
Yes I use extensively use align - so much so that they are the first tool set I add to any custom toolbar Access, but often you want to do other things where Align is not suitable or the right tool. Sometimes you cannot beat zooming in to see exactly what is going on. I guess coming from a graphics background as well, I find these missing functions rather odd. Like undo with MS office product - what is with that???. Most software manages multiple levels of undo - even after saving. XL even today can barely manage undo in any useful and meaningful way.... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 2:12 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 <<And I align controls on Access etc forms and reports to the individual pixel. >> Really? You don't simply use the align button? How do you even manage to do that? I run a 20" panel at 1280 x 1024 at 120DPI (96 DPI is standard) and I can barely see one pixel on the panel. That works out to roughly 1/100 of an inch! I don't think I could align controls manually to a single pixel even if I wanted to. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 09:07 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 And I align controls on Access etc forms and reports to the individual pixel. Anything less looks sloppy. It would be nice if you could zoom in on Forms and Reports in Design View -- Stuart On 30 Nov 2011 at 8:50, Steve Goodhall wrote: > I do change individual pixels when editing photos, especially scanned > negatives with dust or damage problems, but as you said, that's just a > matter of scaling. > > Re virtual keyboards, that's why I waited for the Motorola Droid 3. > > Steve Goodhall, MSCS, PMP > > -----Original message----- > From: jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:30:37 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 > > > As far as pixel precision, it's really a matter of scaling, but do you > really need that? No. > > One of my chief irritations with my Droid is the virtual keyboard, > constantly shifting to another keyboard to get at the numbers or > special characters. And try to position > the pointer with my fat > fingertip to get at a specific character to back space over... > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > > Reality is what refuses to go away > when you do not believe in it > > On 11/29/2011 8:52 AM, Jim Dettman wrote: > > Stuart, > > > > I would agree to your points to a certain extent, but the main > > point > with > > touch screen interfaces is that they are variable, which is a very > powerful > > thing. > > > > Like your current keyboard layout? If not to bad, your stuck > > with it. > > Not so with a keyboard simulated on a touch screen. > > > > I'd also throw in the old saying "Today's science fiction is tomorrow's > > fact". Watch an episode of the original Star Trek; everything is > buttons. > > Now watch one of Star Trek Next Generation; everything is soft; consoles, > > hall displays, etc. There's not a real button anywhere. I don't > > doubt it > > will be long before we are living like that. Everything will be touch. > > > > Now take a look at the reality side; the aviation industry for example. > > Just about everything in aircraft avionics uses HUD's and > > multi-function displays (which have physical buttons, but they are "soft" in that their > > function changes based on the display). And of course we can see where > > consumer electronics is going. > > > > When you come right down to it, what's the difference between > > typing on > a > > keyboard and touching a display? Really none (you push something > > with > your > > finger). > > > > Something that would showcase that quite nicely is terminal emulation. > I > > need to remember that the "DO" key on a VAX is one combination under this > > emulation, another under this emulation, and different under a third. > And > > not all physical numeric keypads have the same layout, which is > > really important in the VAX world. I would much rather see and use > > a virtual keyboard on a touch screen. > > > > Take a look at the original Tron movie sometime; virtual touch keyboard > > built into the desktop. > > > > As far as pixel precision, it's really a matter of scaling, but > > do you > > really need that? No. In fact most people slow their mice down and only > > worry about getting into the general area of where they need to be > > and not > > getting to a specific pixel. Just consider command buttons; I bet > > you > make > > them larger then the text they display; why is that? > > > > Jim. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > McLachlan > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 08:09 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 > > > > What do you mean by "working with" virutal documents. > > > > If you mean creating/editing documents, give me a decent keyboard > > and the > > fine resolution of > > a mouse pointer or stylus please. How do you get anywhere near pixel > > precision with a > > fingertip? > > > > > > On 29 Nov 2011 at 4:25, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote: > > > >> Darryl -- > >> > >> Working with "virtual documents" by hands - two hands - on > >> multi-touch displays is no doubt more ergonomic and intuitive than using mouse... > >> The next logical step are "virtual desktops" - horizontally mounted > >> displays, "virtual blackboards" with "virtual keyboards" etc. - > >> that's another technological revolution of the ways of > >> communicating with computers by using a broad range of both hands gestures and voice... > >> > >> The next should probably be "virtual holographic displays" and 3D > > communication with them... > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> -- Shamil > >> > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com