Stuart McLachlan
stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Fri Sep 9 02:54:18 CDT 2011
It's true what they say - you live and learn. I've been using tabs for umpteen years and I wasn't aware of that trick. Neat! -- Stuart On 8 Sep 2011 at 22:47, rockysmolin at bchacc.com wrote: > Try setting the Style property of the tab control to None. > > Rocky > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Wish List. > From: "Darryl Collins" <darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> > Date: Thu, September 08, 2011 5:02 pm > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > " I'm not sure what you mean about not hiding the tab label." > > At the top of every tab you have a label (tab) which sticks up above > the rest of the form - the bit the user presses to change tabs if more > than one tab is visible. The problem is even if only 1 tab is visible > you cannot hide this label which stick out above the rest of the > form/page. Visually this is not what we want to see. > > Maybe I am just anal about this sort of thing, but it looks ugly, at > least for what I am try to achieve. > > Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-tabbed forms/pages. I have used the > extensively in the past and will do so again. It is just in this one > instance using tabs seems (and looks) like a cheap and tacky > workaround. > > Cheers > Darryl,. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 1:56 AM To: Access Developers > discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Wish List. > > I do know how they work, but I was confused by what I understood of > your description. What you're describing is exactly what tab controls > are for, and I've used them that way in both Access and VB.Net. All > you need to do with a tab control is select the tab page and that > brings the controls on that page up for you to edit. In effect, you > see them the way the user does, except for any controls that you make > conditionally visible to the user when that page is up. Those, of > course, you see in design view all the time. > > I'm not sure what you mean about not hiding the tab label. If you're > talking about the tabs themselves, they can be turned off so that you > control the visible page through code. In Access and .Net, I simply > have used the top and left settigs to insure that things lined up. How > hard is that? As for photoshop, I hate it. It seems to me the ultimate > in non-intuitive UIs, but I admit to being a luddite on some issues, > especially with respect to graphics. > > Charlotte Foust > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Darryl Collins < > darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> wrote: > > > Hi Charlotte - forgive me for this as I really respect your opinion, > > but I am not sure you understand how layers work in other > > applications - they would never show up all at the same time (unless > > that is what you wanted). You can control which ones are visible to > > the user - might be one, might > be > > several in different combinations and you can show and reveal based > > on > what > > the user needs. > > > > Layers would also have the huge advantage of allowing you to edit > > each layer individually in design mode. So you have no need to move > > controls out of the way to get to a control that is under another > > one. Have play in photoshop if you get the chance and you will see > > how useful this method > is. > > I know I can fake it using a tab form but the result is less elegant > > you cannot hide the tab label itself and it is a pain to ensure all > > the controls on each tab is aligned. Blah blah, I have resorted to > > tabs in the past > and > > it is a clunky solution for what I am trying to do. > > > > That said, sometimes tabbed forms are the way to go. Just depends on > > what you want to achieve. In this instance I was thinking "Man, wish > > I had a layered design view"... > > > > Just my thoughts. > > Cheers > > Darryl. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte > > Foust Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:10 PM To: Access > > Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] > > Wish List. > > > > Microsoft addressed this years ago by introducing tab controls. Why > > on earth would you want to use layers that all showed up at the same > > time? Logically, layers would only show the controls relevant to > > that > layer/page. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Darryl Collins < > > darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Been doing a lot of work with forms. In particular single forms > > > with a > > lot > > > of controls that are hidden or revealed depending on what options > > > are available. I really wish MS were inspired by Adobe with how > > > form design behaves. Why can't forms be layered? So you can work > > > on individual > > layers > > > which only have the relevant controls for that layer, but when the > > > form > > is > > > displayed all layers are shown, just like an image in Photoshop > > > for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > That would be super useful as right now if I want to change > > > anything on first controls I added, I have to move all of the > > > other controls on top > > out > > > of the way, make the changes, and then put them all back again. A > > > real PITA. Would be wonderful to turn on and off visibility on the > > > layers > and > > > then it would be easy to access any set of controls that are just > > > on > that > > > layer. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I can sort of fake this by using tabs, is this a better way > > > or > > does > > > anyone has a different angle I can consider? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Darryl. > > > > > > > > > > > > Darryl Collins > > > > > > Whittle Consulting Pty Ltd > > > > > > Suite 8, 660 Canterbury Rd > > > > > > Surrey Hills, VIC, 3127 > > > > > > > > > > > > p: +61 3 9898 3242 > > > > > > m: +61 418 381 548 > > > > > > f: +61 3 9898 1855 > > > > > > e: <mailto:darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> > > > darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au > > > > > > w: <http://www.whittleconsulting.com.au/ > > > > > > > > > > > www.whittleconsulting.com.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > > > > > > > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >