[AccessD] Burn-out

Hi Jim --

Thank you for your reference to the new JavaScript standard extensions brief description.

As for your "pseudo ASP.NET" it would be interesting to know a bit more how you do it - maybe you can find time to write about this technique in dba-VB, just briefly, without excessive details but more than you outlined here?...

JavaScript and WinPhone 7:  yes, it could happen that the first (sample) application/web site I will develop for WinPhone7  will be a jQuery Mobile one (http://jquerymobile.com/) - at least I have already read all the jQuery manuals using WinPhone 7, and it was a rather comfortable reading. Now, I have to find how to handle jQuery Mobile forms, fill them with data, store edited data to the backend db (via web service?) etc...

Thank you.

-- Shamil

01 февраля 2012, 07:22 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>:
> Hi Shamil:
> 
> You are right but JavaScript is a strange bird...somewhere in-between.
> 
> You can make objects and assign properties and you can make class as
> attributes...but in the truest sense of the book description of what a class
> and object is, it would be a fairly liberal interpretation. In the future,
> looking at some of the development work in the latest ECMAScript 5 (New JS
> industry standard) Here is a article describing the objects and properties:
> 
> http://ejohn.org/blog/ecmascript-5-objects-and-properties/
> 
> ECMAScript 5 is even starting to address techniques for accessing local
> hardware that will yet again speed the processes.
> 
> When I describe basic JavaScript, I think of sizing windows, translating
> input, doing simple math, creating substring etc....from then on there is no
> real limits; graphic editing like you have showing, calling for data,
> replacing sections of your screens, new forms or images, creating invoice
> forms (being populated and being updated, in real-time), charts, managing
> inline data...this can all get really complex really fast.
> 
> Fortunately, there is JQuery and hundreds of small apps, forums and a very
> active community that is keeping the momentum up.
> 
> Presently, most of my development uses what I call pseudo ASP.Net. I tend to
> use .Net to the basic design windows, forms, build the BE data connections.
> After I remove much of the extra code and resource directory and strip
> everything down to the layout and JQuery calls. Then all the AJAX management
> and user interface is up to me.
> 
> One day I will be able to write everything from top to bottom or have enough
> "field-tested" code to just cut and paste and patch...but not today. Right
> now it is this vertical learning wall.
> 
> I suspect before you are an expert with you Windows Phone, you will know a
> lot more about JS than you ever wanted to know. :-)
> 
> Jim
> 
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> Shamil
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:16 PM
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> 
> Hi Jim --
> 
> > It is object oriented
> It's "object based" not "object oriented" isn't it? Just like VBA or VB6
> are? :)
> And it even doesn't have a notion of a class...
> Well, is it "object oriented" or not - opinions vary:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/107464/is-javascript-object-oriented ...
> 
> > JavaScript is easy to learn
> Are you kidding?  :) Just learning how to use "object based" language with
> "prototypical inheritance" to make so flexible and powerful coding - just
> that makes learning JavaScript not an easy exercise, isn't?
> 
> > but it takes a lifetime to master.
> True.
> 
> This is JavaScript -
> 
> http://svg-edit.googlecode.com/svn/branches/2.5.1/editor/svg-editor.html
> 
> I wonder how soon it will replace Photoshop or something like that...
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> -- Shamil
> 
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