Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Jul 12 09:30:29 CDT 2012
Hi Gustav: Maybe at your end of the country the businesses are a little more progressive but here these guys are ultra conservative. Most have not even moved off XP (sad), some that have are using Win7 but only in specific places and even if Win8 was another XP clone it would take at least five years for management to take the package seriously. Some managers have moved to an Apple product; like owning BMW. Unfortunately, Apple stations are priced out of the market and there still are very few people who can fix them. The one thing that Win8 has going for it is that its new price-point looks very good...it is about time, as Linux is poised to scoop the desktop market...but what sort of hardware will be the realist minimum? Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Svar: What to do? (was: Just Another Old Boys Club) Hi Darryl The great thing with Windows 8 is that you have both worlds: The desktop which business and "the old boys" will continue to use for years, and the Metro interface which is superior to other "pad" interfaces. And - when you need it - you can switch between with a single keystroke/mouseclick. /gustav >>> darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au 12-07-12 1:18 >>> Agreed. I get a bit puzzled myself - there are two markets for sure. The consumer /domestic market where most folks want something 'that just works', don't care less about looking under the hood and really only use their devices for consuming media, services or information. For these people the iPad / Windows 8 solution should be magic. However for Business or those who develop or produce stuff off their systems this obsession with full sized apps, touch screens and swiping around to make things move really does seem a good solution.... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2012 5:57 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Svar: What to do? (was: Just Another Old Boys Club) There is a realization that the selling of applications is not the market but the selling of services is. If you are in an urban setting and most people are, then the process separates into two very distinct groups; the consumers and the producers, that's us. Being in that urban setting predisposes your preferred interface to an app that's web based. Apple has made a business on building strictly consumer machines. I do not know how much percentage that covers but I would bet it is about 80. Microsoft wants to get into that lucrative market and is all in now. MS knows the business market will do just fine using Win7, using their servers. Businesses and governments are usually well behind the curve and are very conservative. Most banks and governments are still using XP, Microsoft PC Office. One government office announced they had just adopted IE7 and do not trust JavaScript usage so the chances of them moving into the new service era is almost zero. For the next fore-seeable future, in business, the PC will remain king...probably for another ten to fifteen years. I think there will always be plenty of work on the old systems. That is my prediction. Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com