Doug Murphy
dw-murphy at cox.net
Sun Jul 15 17:53:48 CDT 2012
We currently host our user group DNN site at Arvixe.com. $120 for two years with unlimited traffic, multiple sql server databases, etc. Check it out. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to publish stuff Hi Shamil: Currently, we have such a hosting site. We just haven't utilized any of the features at our disposal. I believe the current rate is about $10.00 a month. Given that we have access to a MS SQL BE, can install our own DNN and have (virtually) unlimited GBs we should/would probably be paying a lot more if I hadn't appealed to my friend's good-nature and wiliness to help out a non profit organization. Our needs for functionality, for a DNN site are minimal, to say the least...currently we are little more than a large brochure/social site with little or no business requirements. We could probably get away with just a base DNN install. Graphics, design and layout is my forte. Everyone judges a site by it looks and not necessarily by its functionality...such is human nature. ;-) If many people would contribute a little bit it could easily become a reality. If many people would follow up by contributing to the sites content there is no limit to how far it could grow. Just a Note: Where a company hosts its site has nothing or very little to do with its traffic volume. That all has to do with its branding, the visibility of the web site name (on Google), which is all driven by the site's content. If people are in general agreement we could proceed towards a executive agreement. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Salakhetdinov Shamil Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:04 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to publish stuff Hi Jim -- Yes, DNN is known to have uneasy route when upgrading DNN-driven web sites from version to version 3.x -> 4.x, 4.x->5.x but 5.x -> 6.x transition is working much better AFAIHH. And as I have noted previously if DatabaseAdvisors web site will be ever moved to DNN platform then it will be mainly using HTML and other DNN modules, which shouldn't be an issue to upgrade (will that upgrade be needed at all? - DNN v.6.x looks "perfect"): at least there always be export/import modules contents manual or automated upgrade route/option to apply... As for hosting - PowerDNN (http://www.powerdnn.com/Hosting/CreateaNewSite/ChooseaPlan/tabid/292/Defaul t.aspx) (or similar options) looks good for me - their start-up plan (USD50/month) - does it look affordable for DatabaseAdvisors? I personally would not mind to Paypal 50-100 USD if there will be made a decision within DatabaseAdvisors group/boards of directors to move to DNN platform. When the new site will be up&running and when/if it will attract more traffic it could be possible to try to monetize it using AdWords etc. to try to earn money for PowerDNN "Small Business" hosting plan - USD100/months. Of course it's easy to say but not easy to do... Another up-front spending would be a custom DNN skin for DatabaseAdvisors site - it would cost around USD1000 for good professional skin with not that much graphics AFAIK - here again I'd not mind to PayPal some money to collect the whole sum together than try to do that skin design by ourselves as this work requires knowing DNN skinning "tricky" details which I personally don't know... As for porting current DatabaseAdvisors contents to a DNN site - we can share that work - as you proposed we can first make prototype site and then move it to a hosting site... But please the will to move to DNN shouldn't be just mine, Gustav's, yours - the initiative/support/participating group should be (much) larger - everybody is busy with their own business ... Thank you. -- Shamil Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:11:53 -0700 от "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>: Hi Shamil: The original site was DNN 5.x which had been migrated from 4.x a year or so ago. There were a number of third-party apps installed with their own custom skins/features. Looking back we should have known or suspected that an upgrade to 6.x was going to be a problem. Unfortunately, if the upgrade was just a mater of backing up the application or maybe just clearing out the old application, all together, it would have been easy to isolate the problems. The program though is tightly integrated with the MS SQL server for not only its data but also its entire layout and control. It turns out that many of the third-party extensions were not compatible, no longer worked the same, some cost a fair amount to upgrade and had integrated themselves directly in with the DNN's MS SQL source control data. They caused all sorts of errors and issues. Additionally, many features, stored within the data are location dependant and do not easily migrate. Looking back we should have just set up a new independent server, with the new MS SQL, installed the latest DNN and slowly added in feature by feature. When all things were running perfectly then we should have gone on line. My friend probably rushed ahead as all that he had read, said that the upgrade would be trivial. Maybe this time will be easy as we are starting from an absolutely clean install. Jim <<< snip >>> -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com