[AccessD] Another software disaster...

Mark Simms marksimms at verizon.net
Mon May 21 20:14:56 CDT 2012


Sorry Jim, I disagree. My prior message indicates a error in Analysis /
Design.
These are always disasterous.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 8:36 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another software disaster...
>
> Hi Darryl:
>
> You have about summed it. Some of these systems took 20 years to get
> all the
> bugs out and any new system would have to go through the same vetting
> process.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
> Collins
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another software disaster...
>
> Interesting stuff.  I think a huge part of it (I know it is for the
> Banks in
> Oz) is fear of stuffing us the existing system.  It maybe slow, it
> maybe
> old, it maybe written in FORTRAN, but it has been debug to hell and bug
> and
> it does work and has for decades now.  No-one want to take the
> responsibility of stuffing up the system.
>
> I know in Australia the big banks are slowly updating their main legacy
> platforms, and it hasn't been without some major outages and issues.
> These
> always cause a big public and media stir and I guess also raises issues
> of
> trust and integrity.
>
> A risky path for any business...
>
> Cheers
> Darryl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2012 2:03 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another software disaster...
>
> My personal belief is that the systems that runs the stock-exchange are
> old,
> main frame old.
>
> The software is probably some ancient procedure driven language, not a
> queue
> driven one. Stock-brokers like accountants are very slow at updating
> their
> systems. I do work for local banks from time to time and some of the
> main
> software packages, that run everything were creates over 50 years ago.
> These
> packages may be running on Unix servers but they are not modern
> distributive
> packages so when they meet the system's (hardware) maximum capability
> they
> just loops.
>
> The requirements of an operation like the Stock-Exchange are far beyond
> the
> capabilities of old database structures like MS SQL or even Oracle. The
> Facebook or Google software team should be ones writing new code on
> their
> database systems...their databases don't even flinch when managing a
> billion
> consecutive hits.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:28 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Another software disaster...
>
> This time it was a design issue..that testing did not uncover.
>
> I smell something here..I think there's more to it.
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-20/nasdaq-ceo-says-poor-design-
> in-ipo-
> software-delayed-facebook.html
>
> Outsourcing involved ? No one is saying..
>
>
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