Stuart McLachlan
stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Fri Nov 2 00:57:10 CDT 2012
To answer the question, why haven't they upgraded: I can't think of a single thing that those apps are doing perfectly well today that needs the additional capabilities of later versions. -- Stuart On 1 Nov 2012 at 23:08, William Benson wrote: > I was referring to software releases not objects and functions John. > On Nov 1, 2012 10:42 PM, "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: > > > >I can't think of a single thing I am using today that I used in 97. > > > > uuhhh??? > > > > tables, fields, queries, reports, forms? > > > > Sure the code (vba) is much better in 2003 but 97 worked. > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > > > Reality is what refuses to go away > > when you do not believe in it > > > > On 11/1/2012 6:02 PM, William Benson wrote: > > > >> Why haven't they upgraded? I can't think of a single thing I am using > >> today > >> that I used in 97. > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg > >> >wrote: > >> > >> One biggie for me is dropping support for Jet 3. "This change affects > >>> databases that are > >>> linked to Access 97 databases." > >>> > >>> I've got clients with lots of A97 backends. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Stuart > >>> > >>> On 1 Nov 2012 at 15:06, Jim Dettman wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> > If you haven't figured it out, we (developers) are not going to > >>> be in > >>> the > >>> > >>>> picture much longer. > >>>> > >>>> Microsoft just released details on Office and Access 2013: > >>>> > >>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-**us/library/jj162978(v=office.**15).aspx<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj162978(v=office.15).aspx> > >>>> > >>>> Couple of quotes: > >>>> > >>>> "A new interactive view designer makes it easy for users who have little > >>>> > >>> or > >>> > >>>> no programming experience to build apps. " > >>>> "A new application model enables subject matter experts to quickly > >>>> create > >>>> and share applications that can be used to run their business. " > >>>> > >>>> They are focused on the end user and nothing but and everything is > >>>> > >>> about > >>> > >>>> the cloud and Office 365. Traditional desktop development with Access > >>>> is > >>>> out. > >>>> > >>>> Here's a list of what got pulled out: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/**en-us/library/cc178954%28v=** > >>> office.15%29.aspx<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178954%28v=office.15%29.aspx> > >>> ; > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Two biggies from that: > >>>> > >>>> 1. Access 2003 toolbars and command bars are no longer supported. You > >>>> *must* use the ribbon. > >>>> 2. ADP's are gone. > >>>> > >>>> And there's a bunch of other stuff, like Pivot Charts. > >>>> > >>>> Jim. > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> > >>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>] > >>>> On Behalf Of Tina Norris > >>>> Fields > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 02:52 PM > >>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Regarding multi-value field, from a reader > >>>> > >>>> Well, for what it's worth, I agree with everybody who said don't use > >>>> multi-value fields! Geez, we go to lots of trouble to normalize our > >>>> data and then Access arrives with new specialties that at least look > >>>> like the destruction of normalization! Dang! > >>>> T > >>>> > >>>> Tina Norris Fields > >>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com > >>>> 231-322-2787 > >>>> > >>>> On 10/31/2012 7:08 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Received the following from a reader: > >>>>> > >>>>> "I set up a multivalued field in Access 2010 using a List Box and > >>>>> providing a Value List with values M,T,W,R,F. Everything works fine > >>>>> but for one problem. When I chose M, W, F from my list, th > >>>>> emultivalued filed reads F, M, W ... i.e., the entries are sorted left > >>>>> to right whereas I want them to show up as M, W, F. Is there a way to > >>>>> do this?" > >>>>> > >>>>> =====Other than learning the basics so I could write about them, I > >>>>> don't use them and have almost no experience. Anyone have a quick and > >>>>> easy answer? I'm going to do a little research, but if anybody knows, > >>>>> please share! > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks! > >>>>> Susan H. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/accessd<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> > >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com<http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/accessd<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> > >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com<http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> AccessD mailing list > >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/accessd<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com<http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/accessd<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.**com<http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >