[AccessD] Bootcamp or Paralells - was RE: OT: iPhone/iPad development on an MS Windows PC - noway?

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Sat Sep 15 02:10:14 CDT 2012


No matter how much ram I upgrade, I never seem to have enough. Browsers are simply memory hogs.


On 2012-09-14, at 10:07 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> Which is why I put 8GB of RAM in my  laptop.
> 
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> Stuart
> 
> On 14 Sep 2012 at 21:09, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote:
> 
>> The one main issue with virtualising (for me, that is) is that you end
>> up having less dedicated memory - more so than CPU resources. If you
>> don't need much, than all is good, but .NET/Java applications tend to
>> be pigs (and so is visual studio). 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Hans-Christian Andersen
>> 
>> 
>> On 14 Sep 2012, at 19:47, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Almost certainly, a VM is emulated.  However with the speed of hardware these days...
>>> 
>>> John W. Colby
>>> Colby Consulting
>>> 
>>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>>> when you do not believe in it
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/2012 4:22 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>>>> Thanks - do you know if there's any difference in speed, response time,
>>>> etc.?
>>>> 
>>>> R
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:29 AM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Bootcamp or Paralells - was RE: OT: iPhone/iPad
>>>> development on an MS Windows PC - noway?
>>>> 
>>>> Bootcamp requires selecting which OS to boot into, i.e. only one of the OSes
>>>> is available at the time.  Parallels runs Windows7 (or other OS) in a VM
>>>> under the Mac and thus both are available "simultaneously" which is less
>>>> intrusive if you ask me.
>>>> 
>>>> John W. Colby
>>>> Colby Consulting
>>>> 
>>>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>>>> when you do not believe in it
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/14/2012 1:07 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>>>>> If I want to run my commercial app on a Mac and recommend how to do it
>>>>> to clients who want to use Mac but run my app, which is better -
>>>>> Bootcamp or Parallels?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: iPhone/iPad development on an MS Windows PC
>>>>> - noway?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Shamil:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can always use Bootcamp which effectively runs Windows directly on
>>>>> a Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've got a fairly new Macbook Pro - 2.3ghz I5, 8gb ram.  I just did
>>>>> some quick timing tests opening an A2003 database and running a big
>>>>> report.  I also did the same on my older 2.66ghz Core2 Duo 4gb Windows 7
>>>> 32bit box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just counted off the time manually, so this is pretty rough. But
>>>>> repeatedly running the same report on Bootcamp (32 bit Windows 7), in
>>>>> Parallels (64 bit Windows 7) and on the Windows machine all seemed to
>>>>> take the same time - about 12 seconds on all versions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Psychologically at least, my experience with using all 3 approaches is
>>>>> that I can't tell the difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doug
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>>>> <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do like my Windows Phone 7.5(:)) and it has a set of features,
>>>>>> which are good enough for me currently, I like Windows 7 and as I
>>>>>> have written here several times I have no any objections on new
>>>>>> "Metro" UI for coming Windows
>>>>>> 8: desktop, tablet, phone. I suppose I'm rather effective VS2010/C#/...
>>>>>> developer, my customers like my work...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ... but it  .... "seems that the future of Windows development is
>>>>>> happening largely for corporate environments and customers. I don't
>>>>>> take issue with this other than being someone who doesn't live or
>>>>>> work inside a corporate environment at home..." (source: "50 Reasons
>>>>>> to Switch from Microsoft Windows to Apple's Mac OS X" -
>>>>>> 
>>>>> http://chris.pirillo.com/50-reasons-to-switch-from-microsoft-windows-t
>>>>> o-appl
>>>>> es-mac-os-x/).
>>>>>> ..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ... IOW I do plan to start learning iPhone/iPad (and Android) custom
>>>>>> development really soon and I have to find what is the most effective
>>>>>> yet as affordable as possible combination of hardware and software to
>>>>>> keep both MS Windows (desktop, Phone, tablet) and iPhone/iPad and
>>>>>> Android development...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suppose that getting a Mac instead of a PC is unavoidable but
>>>>>> should I additionally have an MS Windows driven box/laptop or running
>>>>>> MS Windows with Visual Studio on Mac under VMWare Fusion or Parallels
>>>>>> is as speedy as running MS Windows and Visual Studio on a "bare Intel
>>>>> processor metal"?
>>>>>> Does anybody here have a real life experience of MS WIndows
>>>>>> development on a Mac? Please advise.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> FYI: Some more links on the OT subject:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A hardcore Windows guy gets a Mac
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.davidalison.com/2008/02/hardcore-windows-guy-switches-to-m
>>>>>> a c.html iPhone Development On Windows - 7 Options
>>>>>> http://maniacdev.com/2010/01/iphone-development-windows-options-avail
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> ble/
>>>>>> iPhone development on Windows
>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/113547/iphone-development-on-windo
>>>>>> w
>>>>>> s
>>>>>> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=537583
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Shamil
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