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John Bartow john at winhaven.net
Tue Sep 18 10:17:12 CDT 2012


Hi Gustav,
I agree completely about the race to points. The last straw for me on EE was
when I asked a fairly technical NT administration question that was getting
half-baked answers (mostly consisting of links to MS articles) that didn't
solve my question. NT was already pretty old at that time so there should
have been an "expert" with some knowledge of the situation. But the wasn't.
And the moderator wanted to mark it as solved because apparently, at the
time, there was some EE pride factor (or points) for not having open
unanswered questions. I denied the request to close but then I received some
snotty notice a short time later and they marked it as solved. The EE
support wouldn't do anything about it. They showed an arrogance and
disregard beyond belief. Certainly not what I would consider customer
service. And I was PAYING for that! Canceled and will never participate in
another points based forum. (BTW no offense to you Jim, I didn't participate
in the Access forum on EE.)

I used to be involved in some other Access lists and forums but there were
so many rude comments and personal attacks towards newbies and people of
different opinions that I just quite reading them. I see enough of that in
real life, I don't need it in virtual life.

On DBA lists I rarely see anything even bordering on rude and you don't you
don't get points for participating - you get friends or you get infamous. In
JC's case, both ;-)

Regards,
John B

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:34 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The list

Hi Kenneth and Jim

StackOverflow is exactly that - a mess. It's no fun browsing the questions.
There are better things to do.

EE is not a mess but still a bit closed, and the race for "points" leads to
many half-baked answers.

/gustav


>>> jimdettman at verizon.net 17-09-12 21:54 >>>
<<A quick look at StackOverflow shows about 125 questions submitted in the
last 7 days on all Access topics.>>

 FWIW, there have been 309 questions in the last 7 days on Experts-Exchange.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Ismert
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 03:05 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The list

> John W. Colby:
>
> In the end the list is quiet because the Access world is quiet, at 
> least from a developer's perspective, and we started as a developer list.
>

A quick look at StackOverflow shows about 125 questions submitted in the
last 7 days on all Access topics. In the same time, AccessD fielded 12
Access topics -- the generalist StackOverflow is running at roughly 10X our
rate. StackOverflow has at minimum 600 followers on Access topics. I hazard
thats WAY more than AccessD. The standard Access names like Toews, Fenton
and Kallal are well represented there. When have you heard from them here?

That's not counting the Microsoft-hosted forums, Google Groups, Expert
Sexchange ....
<snip>

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