[AccessD] The list

Kenneth:

These lists is not a private list. No company or special interest group owns
the DBA lists. In realistic terms "you" own these lists. What you do or do
not see here is your responsibility. The DBA will give you back what ever
you put in to them. You are just as responsible as anyone here.

This is not someone else's site this is your site. If you don't like what
you see, make suggestions, get an agreement (which is not difficult) and
then roll up you selves and get to work.

If you think your porch needs painting you don't complain to the neighbour,
you just do it. In reality, the sky is the limit with the new technology and
there are virtually no restrictions and here is a great place to hone your
skills but it all depends on YOU.

Jim

PS I built the website twice, Kathryn built it first (it needs a serious
facelift), Bryan built the messaging system, we all enjoy and numerous
others provided expertise, content and community. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Ismert
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:15 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The list

> John W. Colby:
> ...However to approach it with "you guys need to do
> something" won't work...
>

Right now, I am at the 'you guys (the board) need to acknowledge that the
ship is sinking' stage. I know my approach is abrasive, but I haven't found
any other way to elicit any kind of discussion on this topic. It's
frustrating to have some astute individual say 'the list is not serving its
purpose', and have the first response be 'adios, see ya.'

...Believe it or not I am attempting to encourage you to
> take charge. I have worked on several projects for the
> group and it absolutely is possible to implement change...
>

What I will do is join an appropriate email list to see if we can achieve
some consensus that there is a problem. Which one do you recommend?

Jim Lawrence:
> Are you just an arm-chair critic?
>

Certainly not. Couch.

-Ken
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