[AccessD] The list

I'm one (raises hand).

Darren


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 2:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The list

I'm one (raises hand).

Rocky
 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The list

Well, I learn something every day. 

Who are the signing members and therefore, theoretically, the legal owners?

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The list

Not quite true Jim, AccessD and the other lists is owned by DatabaseAdvisors
a privately held company, incorporated in Delaware.  However
DatabaseAdvisors is just a means to an end which is to maintain the lists,
nothing more.  We do not earn money (though we could), we do not pay
dividends to the share holders.  We no longer even sell shares, that was
just a way to manage the incorporation.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 9/19/2012 1:26 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Kenneth:
>
> These lists is not a private list. No company or special interest 
> group
owns
> the DBA lists. In realistic terms "you" own these lists. What you do 
> or do not see here is your responsibility. The DBA will give you back 
> what ever you put in to them. You are just as responsible as anyone here.
>
> This is not someone else's site this is your site. If you don't like 
> what you see, make suggestions, get an agreement (which is not
> difficult) and then roll up you selves and get to work.
>
> If you think your porch needs painting you don't complain to the
neighbour,
> you just do it. In reality, the sky is the limit with the new 
> technology
and
> there are virtually no restrictions and here is a great place to hone 
> your skills but it all depends on YOU.
>
> Jim
>
> PS I built the website twice, Kathryn built it first (it needs a 
> serious facelift), Bryan built the messaging system, we all enjoy and 
> numerous others provided expertise, content and community.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth 
> Ismert
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:15 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] The list
>
>> John W. Colby:
>> ...However to approach it with "you guys need to do something" won't 
>> work...
>>
>
> Right now, I am at the 'you guys (the board) need to acknowledge that 
> the ship is sinking' stage. I know my approach is abrasive, but I 
> haven't
found
> any other way to elicit any kind of discussion on this topic. It's 
> frustrating to have some astute individual say 'the list is not 
> serving
its
> purpose', and have the first response be 'adios, see ya.'
>
> ...Believe it or not I am attempting to encourage you to
>> take charge. I have worked on several projects for the group and it 
>> absolutely is possible to implement change...
>>
>
> What I will do is join an appropriate email list to see if we can 
> achieve some consensus that there is a problem. Which one do you
recommend?
>
> Jim Lawrence:
>> Are you just an arm-chair critic?
>>
>
> Certainly not. Couch.
>
> -Ken
>

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