[AccessD] Future of Windows XP

Rocky Smolin rockysmolin at bchacc.com
Sat Aug 24 00:24:35 CDT 2013


Thanks Bill.  Although why they had to move it is a mystery.  It's no more
intuitive than W7, less so IMO.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Future of Windows XP

Rocky

Just right click on the desktop screen , select personalization  and then
change desktop items on the upper left pane.
Then select the ones you want.

Also if you haven't checked it our on the desktop screen, pull the mouse
down to the lower left where the Metro screen is and RIGHT click lots of
useful menus like Disk Manager Control Pane etc.


Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Future of Windows XP

Arthur:

I have always had a shortcut to 'Computer' on my desktop.  I'm using W8 on
my new laptop but usually bail out to the W7 desktop.  I sued to hit the
Start button and then click ''Computer or drag 'Computer' to the desktop for
a shortcut.  But can't figure out how to get that done in W8.  Do you know?

I also have a problem on the W8 desktop triggering the icons along the right
side for settings, search, etc.  Seems that when I'm really trying to get
those icons to appear I can't. Then after a few tries they do appear.  Is
there a trick to that?

Thanks

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Future of Windows XP

I must confess to the same sin, Charlotte. After a couple of days'
frustration, Icoupld with reading a guide from Packt, I discovered the magic
of the Windows key, and that changed everything. The new laptop I just
recently bought (which came with Win8 installed), with 8GB RAM and 1TB hard
disk, also helped significantly. I spend half my time in Linux, but I must
say that Win8 is a significant leap forward from Win7. Once I learned that
you can drag them tiles into a configuration that suits you, then it was a
game-changer. Now my Start tile-set only remotely resembles the original
setup, and works way more efficiently. I also have a 23" monitor attached to
said laptop, in stretch-mode, and that too is a significant step forward.

Arthur


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Charlotte Foust
<charlotte.foust at gmail.com>wrote:

> Darryl,
>
> I've been using Win 8 since March and I love it.  The speed is 
> excellent and my machine (with a registry tweak, IIRC) automatically 
> loads the desktop after the start menu.  I've found Win 8 to be stable 
> too.  The "fuss" is all UI and getting used to not having tidy menus 
> any more.  I also like Office 2013.
>
> Charlotte
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Darryl Collins < 
> darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi Brad,
> >
> > Nearly all the corporate I know of and work with are moving from XP 
> > to
> Win
> > 7. I don't  know of any business that is running win 8 or Office 
> > 2013, although there must be some of them out there.
> >
> > Personally I find Win 8 an abomination to use.  Sure it is fast, but 
> > my god, it is a pain in the ar$e.  I haven't used it a lot, but 
> > those I know who have been using it for months still don't love it.
> > "I am getting used to it" is the most common refrain, rather than 
> > "Wow,
Now I love it!".
> >  Urrrrrgh.  Wait for W9 I say....
> >
> > In corporate land they are nearly always 2 life cycles behind the 
> > cutting edge.  This not only maximises their return on the software 
> > costs, but
> also
> > minimises the upgrade risk as the initial bugs and UI issues are
> generally
> > ironed out by the time the upgrade.  The loose rule is 'Never before
> > SP1 and preferably post SP2' before even considering the upgrade.
> >
> > Whislt some businesses / Corporate I work with are on Office 2007, 
> > most
> of
> > them have gone from XP / Office 2003 straight to Win 7 - Office 2010.
> >  Honestly, you can largely consider Office 2007 as the beta release 
> > for 2010 and most of the IT folks who make the decisions are onto 
> > that.  2010 is pretty good to work with, where as 2007 has plenty of 
> > annoyances, even today.
> >
> > As for XP security, there would be some risk if an exploit is found 
> > that it will not be patched.  Most folks in business will upgrade 
> > when the support runs out.  But I guess that is up the them and 
> > there needs and budgets.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Win 7 is a nice OS, stable, quiet and fuss free.  Worth considering.
> > If possible give your old XP machines max RAM, 4GB if they are on less.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < 
> > accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> on behalf of Brad Marks < 
> > BradM at blackforestltd.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 5:07 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Future of Windows XP
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I work part time for a small manufacturing firm (about 50 employees) 
> > with a very limited IT budget.
> >
> > Currently there are about 20 older PCs running Windows XP (SP3).
> > There are two purchased application systems and a number of Access
> > 2007 applications.
> >
> > It is my understanding that Microsoft is dropping all support 
> > (including security updates) for XP in April of 2014.
> >
> > My background is primarily in application development and database 
> > administration.  In the past, I have relied on fellow employees for 
> > "Operating System issues".
> >
> > I have some dumb questions.
> >
> > How serious is the issue of Microsoft dropping all support for XP 
> > next April?
> >
> > What are most firms migrating to?  Win-7?  Win-8?
> >
> > I would guess that either Win-7 or Win-8 will need more horsepower 
> > than XP and neither will run very well on older PCs.  True?
> >
> > Will Access 2007 applications run Okay with either Win-7 or Win-8?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brad
> >
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