[AccessD] AccessD never changes

LOL.  I just got a day job.  The description?

"managing a ton of old access databases designed by the user."

Maaaayyyybe generating new Access databases but definitely "replacing these old access databases 
with C# apps".

This by "the Borg".

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 2/25/2013 1:19 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Kenneth:
>
> Ha ha ha ;-)
>
> So what business have you been in the last few years? Impress me and tell me
> it has been working steady with MS Access.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Ismert
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD never changes
>
>> Jim Lawrence:
>> ...there is no niche to fill...
>> ..."There is still a viable niche for Access support"...no there is not.
>> ...it is a dimple not a niche...
>>
> Thank you Jim, for your compelling argument! Based on the weight of Jim's
> opinion, I hereby call for the immediate shutdown of AccessD, on grounds of
> irrelevance!
>
> Charlotte Foust:
>> ...I doubt you'll find much fluster in this group...
>> ...No hard feelings...
>>
> The list sure does have a short memory! Nothing personal intended. You're
> not part of the problem.
>
> John W Colby:
>> ...It's more like:
>> Dissenter:  You guys need to...
>> Group: Yes, you do need to...
>> Dissenter... but we have no relevance...
>> Group: yes, you should take the lead...
>> Dissenter: silence...
>> Deafening silence when it is suggested that someone take the lead.
>> dissenter:  Oh my... what... you cant mean... who me?
>>
> OK, I've been waiting for this. This one's rich.
>
> Let's go down a little timeline. Last year when this topic came up:
>
> * Septav complains
> * Group tells Septav to piss off
> * I feel that is unfair
> * The group has its first real discussion of relevance in over a year
> * The group gets flustered
> * The group:
>    > Puts the thread into the 'discussion forum of no return'
>    > Invites the participation of all in discussing the future of the forum
>    > I dutifully put in my written response.
>
> What then, from the vaunted group?
>    > Nothing
>    > Nada
>    > Silence
>
> I bugged a few people on the list a few times on the status, but gave up
> once it became obvious what happened.
>
> I got stonewalled.
>
> So the group, when confronted with real criticism, walls off and silences
> dissent.
>
> Tell me this is not the case, but back it up with proof.
>
> The onus, in my opinion, is still on the group.
>
> On you, Colby. (dramatic soap opera music)
>
> -Ken