Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com
Mon Feb 25 21:51:25 CST 2013
I'd like to thank all the VOLUNTEERS who keep this place running. In particular Bryan Carbonnell, John Bartow and Jim Lawrence without who this list and the website up and running. I've been around since the early days during the original AccessD list days. Through the temporary versions of the lists we struggled through. I invested real money in the corporation when we needed that to get us going and again when we were low on funds. I was doing Access development back in the early days and the sources of information on how to do stuff I needed to do were pretty much nonexistent. Many of the original movers and shakers who got us to what we have today have moved on. Have a look at the shareholder list on the website and you will see many names you no longer see posting here. I personally don't have the time or the energy to take on anything else beyond what I already do. I'm thinking that if Ken and Tony and some others DO have that time and energy then I will be excited to see what they put together for us to utilize. Good luck guys. GK On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:49 PM, John W Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote: > Charlotte, are you NOT kissing my patutie? > > Show of hands out there, all Colby Patutie kissers please raise their hand! > But of course my fans are not allowed to actually admit being hangers on. > > Sorry Ken. I don't get there is any fan club here, nor any rock star > either. There are a dozen folks more knowledgeable than I. Maybe twice > that. Hell for all I know perhaps 100 more. > > I think that what is really going on is that there is no group of > discontents willing to spend a quite considerable effort to make a change. > There is no "walling off" happening. I would believe no one showed up for > the meetings. I can't say for sure because I didn't show up. And that is > probably quite irritating to the one who wants to actually do something. > But while a crowd of one might be able to effect change it is unlikely. > > I have said I just don't care any more. AccessD is a small (and shrinking) > group of amazingly knowledgeable folks. Knowledgeable about many different > things, not only Access. And so I stick around just because... not because > I have the need to get a ton of questions answered, though there is an > occasional question. Not because I have any need to have my patutie kissed. > Because I know and like a bunch of the people here. > > Someone called it an "old folks group" or something similar. To some extent > that is very true. > > I actually participated in a big way a dozen years ago when I needed > AccessD. Now I don't. I Google for twenty questions and if I just can't > find it out there then I come to AccessD for that twenty first. Back when > we resurrected AccessD I (and a bunch of other people) spent dozens of hours > building the company, putting together the BOD, writing the bylaws, electing > officers, having meetings, setting up the infrastructure, raising money, > acquiring services. It was not me, in fact I was a bit player in the grand > scheme of things. But I spent significant time none the less. > > Today I don't have the time nor the motivation to go through anything like > that again. While Ken claims bullshit, I really do support anything anyone > wants to do as long as it does not involve dragging me out of my recliner. > > A dozen years ago I was 45 years old, married, DINK, spent all my spare time > running around Mexico enjoying the scenery and my "youth". Today I am 57 > years old, have a son 11 years old and a daughter 9 years old. My daughter > has significant disabilities. My energies are spent battling the system to > get services for my daughter. My hours are spent working in a city 3 hours > from home. My hours are spent talking on the phone to my kids at night. I > just don't have any time or energy left to fighting the good fight of > improving AccessD. Anyone who claims I am intentionally trying to prevent > such improvements needs to reconsider their position, that simply isn't > true. I will hang around and reap any rewards but I will not spend my > precious time actually pushing for it to happen. I did my part the first > time around. It is someone else's turn. > > Ken I would actually LOVE (in all caps) to have AccessD become a vibrant > bustling community again with a dozen different media fronts. Go for it. I > will vow in public to vote for YOU (Ken) for the board (you can run for my > position) and also for PRESIDENT of the company (a position I held for > several years). That should put you in a position to make the changes > that you think will help. > > As for Charlotte, I am disappointed that you are disavowing your position as > head of my fan club. Who shall I get to replace you? > > John W. Colby > > Reality is what refuses to go away > when you do not believe in it > > On 2/25/2013 9:06 PM, Charlotte Foust wrote: >> >> I never realized I was a groupie! Wow! Makes me feel young again ;-} >> >> Sorry, Ken, but I guess I missed the threads where we were all kissing >> JC's >> patootie. I'm having a problem understanding what kind of relevancy >> you're >> looking for in the list. Some of us have moved on but still get sucked >> back into Access. I didn't think there was some kind of screening process >> for belonging, especially since VBA tends to be a crossover language, by >> intent. I'm not trying to bait you, I honestly don't understand what >> you're looking for. From what I can see, it boils down to smart people >> not >> using their intelligence in a way that satisfies you. Please correct me >> if >> I'm wrong. >> >> Why stay around and argue about it? When I saw the direction Woody's >> Lounge was going after the Great Acquisition by Windows Secrets, I bailed, >> followed very quickly by the rest of the admins. We went and built our >> own >> sandbox to play in, Eileen's Lounge. We're still doing what we did and >> people are still finding us and asking indecipherable questions to which a >> few bright stars actually manage to find answers. >> >> I'm mostly an admin in absentia, but they still value my viewpoint, so I >> drop in, much like Eileen used to do, just to keep the troops in line. >> <evilgrin> >> >> Charlotte >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Kenneth Ismert <kismert at gmail.com> wrote: >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com