[AccessD] New Approach

>You have to completely blame Apple for starting the whole GUI trend. ;-)

LOL, yes Steve Jobs gets credit for everything he stole.

There is a story which goes something like this.

Steve Jobs was ranting to Bill Gates about Bill stealing the Gui look from Apple.  Bill replied "Well you stole it from Xerox"

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 3/4/2013 7:08 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Hans:
>
> I think I did cover that point.
>
> "... though there are very little (no) differences other than cosmetic
> between desktop and server. They are both fully multi-user and use the same
> kernel. "
>
> I think that having no GUI is ultimate cosmetic. ;-) According to the Ubuntu
> site, their server and desktop have been completely the same (other than the
> GUI) and there have only been a few modest difference starting as of the
> 12.04 version.
>
> As for Microsoft not having servers with out a GUI, there is their latest
> offers, a Hyper-V Server 2012. It is free to download and run but it is
> totally command prompt driven. I understand there is a couple of packages
> out there, if needing some GUI but they are basic in the extreme.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/hyper-v-server/default.aspx
>
> A friend is running his servers with the package and he is very pleased with
> it. It runs everything as virtual drives. It is not as fast as Linux but a
> lot faster than the regular MS Server 2012 and it is supposed to scale a lot
> easier and has full support for the Cloud as well as Samba server and Linux
> integration. (Why the GUI should affect the basic functionality I have no
> idea but that is what I am being told).
>
> As a point of interest the DBA website is running off such a server.
>
> I think most of us old guys grew up with the command prompt, with various
> minis, main-frames, UNIX and even DOS and would have little problem going
> back but only if demanded as we have become a little gentrified. You have to
> completely blame Apple for starting the whole GUI trend. ;-)
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian
> Andersen
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:30 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] New Approach
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Just to add to your comment about Ubuntu, there are some slight differences
> between desktop and server. The most obvious one is thar Ubuntu server does
> not install with a GUI by default and this is a good thing. In my opinion
> and that of many in the industry, a GUI is a waste of system resources, as
> Linux can be administrated perfectly fine via the command line (bash and
> ssh) and you have less software installed this less of a surface for
> security vulnerabilities. For those reasons and others, I'd say it is the
> superior choice for a server administrator, but that is sometimes a hard
> sell for someone more familiar with using Microsoft server operating
> systems, so you can still install a GUI if that is your preference.
>
> Another difference is that the kernel for Ubuntu server is a little
> different. It's been optimised and tweaked more for a server environment and
> better performance in that respect. Which is nice.
>
> The last notable difference is also the software packages available and the
> package repositories. They are not quite the same as the server version is
> geared more for stable software releases, while desktop is a bit more
> bleeding edge. Ubuntu also provides you with some services that you don't
> really get on the desktop version, such as Landscape, other cloud services
> and etc.
>
> I run an Ubuntu server (still on 11.04 though, need to upgrade one of these
> days), but my experience so far in the last 2 or so years has been great. I
> recommend it if you want a good server OS and the other proper Linux server
> distros like CentOS and Debian are a bit intimidating.
>
>
> - Hans
>
>