[AccessD] This seems to get me often

Rocky Smolin rockysmolin at bchacc.com
Tue Dec 23 21:08:48 CST 2014


Normalization is for weenies!  You go girl.  Just leave that FK blank!  A
good program is one that works.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] This seems to get me often

Yes, that's what I've done.  What's troubling me is that not every donation
will have both FKs filled - as when the donor is just an individual, not
associated with an organization on record.  something feels wrong (not
normalized) about that setup, but I don't see how to normalize it.

Would you use the same principle for other similar setups, such as the
different associations for phones?  For instance, the household has a land
line, and the several members of the household carry cell phones.  
The table of phone numbers will have an identifier for the type of phone and
an FK for either the household or the individual.

Thanks for your ideas.

TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 12/23/2014 6:15 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I make the individual table your primary table with all the contact 
> info, etc.  And a field which would be an FK to the Organization 
> table.  That way many individuals could belong to an organization.  
> For the donation record I'd put two FKs, one to the individual, one to the
organization.
>
> hth
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris 
> Fields
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:05 PM
> To: DatabaseAdvisors-Access
> Subject: [AccessD] This seems to get me often
>
> Hi,
>
> I do keep having this sort of problem to solve.  An example would be 
> that a donor could be an individual or an organization.  So, a 
> donation record might have an individual ID as an FK or it might have 
> an organization ID as an FK.  I'm uncomfortable with setting up a 
> table where one of two FKs will be blank.  Another example would be 
> that a client of a law firm could be an individual or an organization.  
> Another example would be that a telephone could be associated with an
individual, or a household, or an organization.
> What is the logical way to handle these?  What am I not seeing?
>
> Thanks for your guidance.
>
> TNF
>
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