Jim Dettman
jimdettman at verizon.net
Wed Feb 12 06:58:21 CST 2014
<<it makes more sense to receive the updates, plug ins etc.>> There's pro's and con's to it. It will be interesting to see how the subscription model evolves. Many vendors are going to it so they have a steady revenue stream. Time will tell if it will work well or not. While it seems like getting a steady stream of new features might be nice, it can work against you. In regards to Office 365, one of the things that's surfaced is that you get new updates on Microsoft's time table, whether you want them or not. That means companies now need to deal with user training on a constant basis. Also means they are always dealing with the newest problems, for which many times there is no quick fix for. No longer can they purchase something, train on it, learn it inside and out, sit on it, and re-coup their investment. There's also the issue of the features/updates themselves. Many vendors are now pressured to bring out features on a regular basis, otherwise folks feel like their not getting their money's worth. Problem is, many of the features are worthless and if introduced on their own, would fall flat. Team Viewer is like this. They committed to one major release a year. But it's obvious that their struggling to come up with new features to include. I'm still on version 7 because there has been nothing compelling in versions 8 or 9 to bother upgrading for. Their not quite a subscription model, but your always encouraged to continually upgrade and that's their pitch. Buy, then continually upgrade at a reduced price. If you don't upgrade, the upgrade price goes up each release you skip until you get back to full price. That's costly if you decide you don't want a release, but if a release offers nothing, your spending money for nothing. It will be very interesting to see how the pace of innovation is affected by the subscription model. I believe subscription prices will trend lower and along with it, the pace of innovation will slow. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 01:51 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alpha Proficiency Package Hey Jim At first I baulked (and it kind of made me angry) at a yearly update license, but giving it some thought it makes more sense to receive the updates, plug ins etc. on a regular basis. Rather than waiting 2 to 3 years to purchase the next version release of a program. Tony Septav Nanaimo, BC Canada -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: February-10-14 7:41 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alpha Proficiency Package Almost everything is on a subscription model now. I bought The Dev Express framework for .net last year...not cheap either and it's year after year. Jim Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:41 PM, "Tony Septav" <TSeptav at Uniserve.com> wrote: > Hey John > I have bought into the Alpha line of products, upon a recommendation from > Arthur. After almost over 20 years of working and developing client > applications with ACCESS I found over the last 3 or 4 years MicroSoft had > totally left their developers behind. I had to make a decision either buy a > weiny wagon and go sale my wares on the beach or look for another > alternative to continue producing applications that my remaining few current > clients and possible future clients could use on the Web or on their mobile > devices. I have spent the past few months renovating the house but hope to > get up to speed starting in March with Alpha. The product is not cheap. My > understanding is you initially buy the product with a 1 year term license, > that means any new updates (and they continue to push out new stuff every > month) will be sent to you for free after that you have to pay a fee to > continue to receive the updates for the next year. > > Tony Septav > Nanaimo, BC > Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W Colby > Sent: February-10-14 8:03 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alpha Proficiency Package > > The link says "1 year term license". What happens after a year? I might be > tempted to do this but > not if there is a yearly license fee. > > If I may ask, how did you get involved in this and how much has it cost you > so far? > > John W. Colby > > Reality is what refuses to go away > when you do not believe in it > > On 2/10/2014 12:06 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: >> For those listers who have taken a look at Alpha Anywhere (and those that >> haven't), the folks at Alpha Software have put together the package named >> above. It includes the full Alpha Anywhere package normally $1899), two >> hours of personlized, expert mentoring, normally $150 per hour, plus a > free >> registration for an upcoming Intensive Programming Workshop, normally > $399. >> All of this is available for $999 US. >> >> In the interests of full disclosure, I am in frequent communication with >> the Rabins brothers, the principals of Alpha, and with various members of >> the development team. I am not an Alpha employee, nor have any commercial >> relationship with Alpha. I am, however, a huge admirer of the Alpha line > of >> software, and especially with Alpha Anywhere, which I consider the leading >> product available for developing write-once apps for smart phone, tablet >> and traditional browsers, as well as traditional desktop apps. >> >> Alpha is so much more powerful than Access that there is almost no >> comparison. To download a free trial and view the many demos and videos, >> visit www.alphasoftware.com. 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