Darryl Collins
darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au
Tue Feb 25 20:27:18 CST 2014
I concur John, Windows 8 reminds me of some needy types I have met. In their attempt to be agreeable and please everyone, they end up annoying and confusing the hell out of all comers. Windows 8 is really two OS's in one. For example the Metro IE is not the same as the desktop IE - and they want the average user to 'get' that they are completely separate? Talk about a bipolar approach. I am waiting to see what windows 9 brings, in the meantime I keep using my Windows 7 OS disks for clean installs and getting folks to buy the required lic online. Tried W8, didn't like it, wouldn't recommend it. I also loathe the latest fashion of 'hiding' everything (such as menus, preferences, options etc). Talk about dumbing down the system. Regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W Colby Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 1:08 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ramblings of a nutcase And look out if you are dropped into Windows 8 as the only available computer, nothing else to Google for help with. I guarantee that you will get NOWHERE. John W. Colby Reality is what refuses to go away when you do not believe in it On 2/25/2014 7:51 PM, Doug Steele wrote: > I have been the Windows go-to guy for several families and a couple of > my old employers for many years. I helped a friend buy a new laptop > with Windows 8.0 on it last year. I swear that I had the most > frustrating two hours of my entire computer career when I turned that > thing on and tried to get it working with Office. I ended up stuck > with full screen windows many, many times and had to keep re-booting to start again. > > I understand now what my problem was - expecting the Metro interface > to be like yet another shallow shell on top of 'real' Windows. But > for a while I was shrieking and cursing like never before. I notice > now that my friend, who is not exactly a power user, switches to the > Windows desktop as soon as she can, and hardly ever uses the Metro interface. > > Just as a contrast, I will never forget watching my 90 year old father > pick up my new iPad and instantly figure out, with no help from me, > how to use it productively. > > Doug > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Hi Arthur: >> >> I see Windows 8.x as a great user computer...but in a full office >> environment it becomes hard to use. >> >> My thought is, "Why should the system have to be adapted to?", with >> all sorts of third-party apps just so it becomes business friendly. >> People, in an office, need a number of applications open just to do >> their work...for around home and just play, Windows 8.x is great. But >> then the question has to be asked then why not just get an iPad for home use? >> >> Back in the day, when Windows 95 was first introduced, the company I >> was working for, put on a number of training sessions and these >> training sessions were very well attended. We also went from office >> to office giving training in certain programs. Introducing Windows >> was not a minor task...but after a while people just got-it. >> Microsoft, in those days, gave a number of open conferences for the >> tech and user community. Again, they were well attended. It is >> amazing how quickly everyone forgets just how hard it was introducing >> the new windows and the new Office. The UI did not appear obvious to all but everyone really wanted to learn. >> >> Today it is a similar problem but this time the average user, or >> anyone for that matter, is on their own and must figure out things by themselves. >> What results is that a few figure some way to do something, other >> figure out another way and some just quit as there are many simple >> alternatives, that just work. >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> >> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" < >> accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, 25 February, 2014 12:05:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ramblings of a nutcase >> >> IMHO, you folks are all pussies and refuse to see what's great about >> Windows 8. With the proviso that you download and install >> ClassicShell (google it). This free tool goes a long way toward >> making Windows 8 palatable for old-timers. In fact it goes further >> than that; it's smarter and better than the old classic start menu. >> >> Even without this wonderful tool, there are a few key things you can >> do to smarten up your startup tile UI: most notably, you can drag the >> tiles into an arrangement of your choice, and also create groups of >> tiles containing associated programs (i.e. a Media group, a SQL >> group, etc. And most significantly, you can drag your most >> frequently-visited programs to the top left of the tile groups. In my >> tile setup, the first tile is Desktop. I have two monitors and the >> desktop opens on the large monitor. I also make extensive use of the >> QuickLaunch bar, and the programs soon learn which monitor they should load on. >> >> That custom setup accomplished, you are now in a position to see some >> of the startup, performance and memory management advantages of >> Windows 8.1. I can only say that I'd never consider going back to >> Windows 7. I still have a copy of it, but it's on a separate box >> entirely, and I find myself using that box less and less -- just for >> large downloads and for running Ubuntu Linux. >> >> I have one more customization of the Win 8.1 laptop planned. I >> recently read a net piece on how to hook up two external monitors to a laptop. >> That's next. I'll have three monitors, two external and the laptop monitor. >> That will be very cool. >> >> My $0.02. >> >> Arthur >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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