William Benson
vbacreations at gmail.com
Sun Jan 26 23:16:24 CST 2014
ditto, i see some at GE moving that way. On Jan 26, 2014 7:53 PM, "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru> wrote: > Hi Jim -- > > > I am leaning toward the Adobe suite... > So do I. > > > ..almost as fast as an MS Access application...and only takes four/five > times as long.. > I suppose that given nowadays developer tools (for all OSes and dev > platforms/mainstream (general purpose) programming languages) it all > depends on a developer skills. And no, I do not mean "junk FE Generations > tools" - I mean (mainly) "hand-made" FE/UI/UX implementations. > > -- Shamil > > Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:57 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca > >: > >Hi Shamil: > > > >No, in this case I was talking about the front or display end of the > application. I do think the business intelligence and data management is > all back end stuff. If done right a good balance between BI and DM can be > made...I tend to "weight" processing towards the BE data server. I like to > keep a clear separation between FE and BE, starting at the AJAX call...and > try to keep these types of pages separated. > > > >As mentioned before, it is fun to build an ASP.Net application using VS > (can be faster than hand coding), then go into the code dumping and > separating the components depending on its location...client or server end. > Though any automated building process tends to produce much more junk that > useful code. It is not a pretty process but its fast (at least to > build...not so fast to fix)...almost as fast as an MS Access > application...and only takes four/five times as long...add to that bevelled > and curved edges, field properties, shadows, background graphics, popup and > help menus, images, smooth transitions and so on. ;-) > > > >Good or bad idea? > > > >What would you say is the best tool(s) set for building real, internet > capable, applications with all the fancy and pretty interfaces, that > customers now demand and expect and most importantly, will replace MS > Access but for the browser? > > > >I am leaning toward the Adobe suite... > > > >Jim > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" < mcp2004 at mail.ru > > >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" < > accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > >Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:54:04 AM > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problem of a listbox's response on network... Part > 1 > > > > Hi Jim -- > > > >>>> Coding in VB, C# or ASP.Net and so on, > >>>> can take weeks to do what can be done days > >Sorry? Do you mean that implementing ADO(.NET) manipulation of back-end > databases in VB.NET, C# or ASP.NET (C#/VB.NET) "can take weeks to do what > can be done (in) days" using MS Access pass-through queries, back-end SPs > and VBA? > > > >Thank you. > > > >-- Shamil > > > >Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:38 PM -07:00 from Jim Lawrence < > accessd at shaw.ca >: > >>Hi Mark: > >> > >>Pass through queries can do a lot without re-coding. Deleting, adding > and updating a single record can be handled just fine but when you start > doing select statements, searches, multi-record processing and complex > queries that is when the DAO application starts grinding to a stop. > >> > >>Once you have built a ADO based or mixed application, building another > one is fairly easy as from then on it is mostly cut, paste and > adjust...each new application becomes easier than the one before. :-) > >> > >>I think MS Access has one of the easiest interfaces of any database > tool....ADO just allows it to connect to virtually any data source. Coding > in VB, C# or ASP.Net and so on, can take weeks to do what can be done days > and if you are going this route might as well build a JavaScript frame-work > web interface. > >> > >>Aside: DDN is a great package but the over-head is huge. Put 100 users > on a single application, you had better have your server fully deck-out and > if anything fails...took me two weeks to solve one small issue as there are > so many levels and so little internal documentation. > >> > >>Jim > > > >-- > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > Салахетдинов Шамиль > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >