[AccessD] Question of Approach

I personally would define your situation as Hell, but you seem OK with it,
so plod on, my friend.

Arthur


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:19 AM, John Clark <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com>wrote:

>
>
> >>> "James Button" <jamesbutton at blueyonder.co.uk> 1/29/2014 2:55 PM >>>
> "The questions will not change - now where have I heard that before!"
> ***** I know what you are saying...and I do not disagree w/the sentiment.
> But, in this case "proper procedure" was not followed, and this is more of
> a case of me helping out a user out of a jam. If this were done properly,
> from the beginning, I'd have sat down a met w/them and done a bit of a
> "discovery" session...get to know their scenarios and what their end goal
> was...and I'd have done all the programming from there.
>
> To be honest...and this is the really sad part...this database will be
> used for a bit, and then it will sit dormant. I had helped her w/a small
> part of this back a couple of years ago...it might have been 2-3 years
> ago...or maybe more...and she hasn't even touched it in at least a year.
> So, in this case, I think the questions...which I don't like to begin
> with...will last long enough to beat out the program.
>
>
> "And will you be making similar 'adventurous' decisions in the future?"
>
> ***** Actually, one of my worst attributes is that I cater TOO MUCH to my
> users. I've gotten much better over the years, and I'm probably where I
> should be now...for the most part...aside from this one. I do still try to
> cater to my users, but I try to save them from themselves as well. I've
> seen enough mistakes now...and heard some from this list...that I will
> steer them away from mistakes.
>
> This instance is not one to be indicative of how I operate. This was a bit
> of a messed up situation that I'm just trying to make better.
>
> If I could, for just a moment, make a bit of an OT statement...my boss is
> a politician, running an IT department...he fancies himself tech savvy but
> he is...well...he's a bit of an idiot. Due to his lack of knowledge and
> experience...and lack of spine and testicles (remember he's a
> politician)...he will not listen to his people and makes his moves based on
> things he hears from outside influences. He does not respect what I do, and
> he thinks Access is just a user tool. So, in his mind, I think he believes
> me to just be Access support for whatever our users do, rather than someone
> who can help productivity w/by creating programs. If someone wants a
> program written, we have to jump through many hoops...first he wants to
> know if we can buy a canned program, then he asks around the other counties
> of NY to see what they're using...and if they'll share. He'll do whatever
> it takes to avoid letting me actually write one...nevermind that many times
> I could probably write it...or most of it...in the time he wastes avoiding
> it.
>
> I tell you all this...and there is more to it...to explain how I get in
> these situations. My users try to do things on their own, because it takes
> too long to have one done for them.
>
>
> "Still, at least you are (I presume) being paid a salary for the hours
> (man-months?) you dedicate to helping that user!"
>
> ***** I am indeed getting paid...but, I'd not be so quick to do it, if not
> for her being a nice person, and part of a nice department, that has always
> treated me well...I have plenty to keep me busy these days.
>
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Arthur