[AccessD] Windows 8

John Bartow jbartow at winhaven.net
Tue Mar 4 17:21:53 CST 2014


Whoa! Hold on there John, we're just razzing you. We're doing the same over
on the OT list to Alan so some of this is getting crossed up in traffic and
thinking. BUT it's all been in jest on both lists. Really, who cares what
someone else uses? Well, unless they're a customer that is.

I still support mostly Windows 7 (80%) with some foot draggers on Windows XP
(19%) and a few on Win2k/NT and just yesterday I had to Frankenstein
together a PC-DOS system because it is being used for accounting.

My main system is Windows 7, I have either a PC or a VM with every other
version and I use a Windows 8 Surface Tablet while on the move. I have
considered moving to Windows 8 on my main but I just haven't had the time,
nor as you have so eloquently stated, the need ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W Colby
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8

 >>>And you're complaining about Windows 8? Try doing any of the things you
rip Windows 8 for on an Android device, lol!

LOL that is exactly my point John, my android device is NOT my desktop.   I
do NOT TRY to do them on 
my android device.  I have no need or desire to do them there.  In fact,
many things that I do on my desktop are DIFFICULT to do on my android
device, and those SAME THINGS are now difficult to do on Windows 8 desktops,
where they were not difficult on Windows 7 desktops.  THAT is NOT a win!!!

I have an android pad, a very nice Asus TF300, and an Android Phone, a very
nice Samsung S3.  I do not, and will never try to do work on those.  I
bought a thousand dollar quad core I7 laptop to work on, and I have NO
INTENTION of lobotomizing it with Windows 8X.

This is a MICROSOFT problem, not having a viable phone / pad OS. Their
solution to THEIR problem was to hose my desktop experience.  I will freely
admit that I am not a kiddie getting on to run facebook and watch youtube
videos.  My daughter took to Windows 8 like a duck to water.  All the swipe
/ pinch thingies that work on my android pad work on Windows 7.  She doesn't
care or probably even notice that everything is forced to full screen.

But I do.  It gets in my way.

She doesn't even know that a task bar exists.  But I do and AFAICT the
Windows 8 taskbar doesn't work the same as the Windows 7 taskbar.  And I
used the very functionally that MS stripped out.

In all of these discussions, NOBODY has EVER thrown out any "must have" for
Windows 8;  THIS is why you SHOULD be going to Windows 8.  Furthermore, and
even more telling, in all of the reviews of Windows 8 out there on the
internet, there is a similar silence on reasons why I should be moving to
Windows 8.

All that has happened so far is that I have been called a Fanbois (of
Windows 7), a "Stuck in the mud curmudgeon" and a Luddite. All by folks who
use and love Windows 8, and whom I have told "Cool, glad you like it".

An attack on the person is always an indication of an absence of valid
argument in the discussion.  
And the reasons to use such "attacks" probably has to do with the very real
"adjustments" that these Win 8 users had to make, and their distaste for
having been forced to make those adjustments.  Why else would anyone care
enough that I refuse to join the bandwagon to call me names?

I absolutely don't care if you or anyone else uses Windows 8.  I have used
"fanboi" simply because another poster was aiming that at me.

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 3/4/2014 3:19 PM, John Bartow wrote:
> And you're complaining about Windows 8? Try doing any of the things 
> you rip Windows 8 for on an Android device, lol!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W 
> Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8
>
>   >>>oh wait, are those keys available on a surface tablet or Windows
phone?
>
> It matters not because I use Android phones and tablets.
>
> ;)
>
> John W. Colby
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>


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