[AccessD] apocalypse someday...

John W Colby jwcolby at gmail.com
Sat Mar 8 13:51:16 CST 2014


Yep, large cloud storage is kind of useless for that very reason.  You can't get it up there, and 
then you can't get it back.

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 3/8/2014 12:38 PM, Bill Benson wrote:
> I got rid of Dropbox because the upload and download speed is too slow.
> When I had a drive that was going bad I saved everything to a friend's
> computer and left them uploading to DB while I went back to NY. About 300
> GB worth of data. Ahem, 1 1/2 weeks later I just about had all the data
> retrieved. There were several failed attempts to download a 140GB Acronis
> archive. Furthermore the cost of DB is 50 bux per mo for 500GB. I would
> rather spend the money on redundant, much faster hardware. DB also does not
> tell me how large individual files and folders are, only how much of my
> quota has been used. And last but not least, since my files and folders are
> not indexed (only) on DB as they are in my own file system,  if I cut and
> paste huge globs of data (say I am reorganizing) Dropbox treats it as
> delete + add and rather than just updating a file index somewhere, it
> either throws stuff back onto my HD in the DB folder, thinking I want it
> back, or at a minimum, rebuilds itself through a time intensive upload and
> download "synch". I don't see they really have any other way to do what
> they do, since they don't have stuff indexed the way the clients do... but
> still, unless my HD folders are very stable, DB can be slow and
> inconveniencing.
>   On Mar 8, 2014 10:31 AM, "John W Colby" <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Another problem with Dropbox is security, the stored contents are not
>> encrypted.  I use BoxCryptor to encrypt sensitive files up on drop box.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>>
>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>> when you do not believe in it
>>
>> On 3/8/2014 10:24 AM, Doug Steele wrote:
>>
>>> I have a desktop at home and use a laptop when I'm away.  I use Dropbox
>>> for
>>> syncing - all my working files are in my Dropbox folder.  That syncs
>>> continuously on any file changes when I'm connected to the Internet, and
>>> also means I have three identical copies of every file - one on each
>>> computer and one in the cloud.
>>>
>>> The only gotcha is if you open a file on the two computers simultaneously
>>> and make changes to both.  You end up with two copies of the file - one
>>> labelled 'Conflicted Copy'.  That's happened to me a few times when I've
>>> made changes at home, then forgotten to close the file and later made
>>> changes on the laptop away from home.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> PS Speaking of backing up different hardware configurations, here's one
>>> distinct advantage to Macs, where Apple controls the hardware with an iron
>>> fist.  Both my computers are Macs (I run Windows on Parallels).  A full
>>> backup of either of my computers will restore to either machine just fine.
>>>    As well as the standard Time Capsule continuous backup that Apple
>>> provides, I use a program called Super Duper for regular, offline backups
>>> to USB drives.  The drives are fully bootable - this has saved my bacon a
>>> couple of times.  I had a hard drive failure recently, so all I did was
>>> plug in a backup drive, boot to it, recover the files I needed, install a
>>> new HD, restore the system with the last good Time Capsule backup, then
>>> copy my recovered files back.  The whole process took less than an hour,
>>> not counting the HD replacement.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Bill Benson <bensonforums at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I use a DELL laptop with port replicator and dual monitors, external
>>>> kb/trackball... and this in general gives me all the look and feel and
>>>> performance of a desktop machine. However we developers need to build for
>>>> lesser performing client (customer) systems anyway, so that if a solution
>>>> is fast for us, we know it will be at least almost-fast for our customer,
>>>> and not the other way around. That said, there are some reasons to use a
>>>> desktop machine, and that is durability... If you are like me, you may
>>>> have
>>>> lost a laptop HD a time or two. Having a desktop running dual drives with
>>>> RAID 3 would have been nice at such times. Also, the faster spin and huge
>>>> capacities of desktop HDDs is a plus, as are the plethora of ports and
>>>> (generally) better ports. Laptops are, due to form factor and nature,
>>>> skimpy on ports.
>>>>
>>>> If I knew of a simple way to keep dual systems in synch in terms of
>>>> programs and OS and data, there is no way I would use a laptop as a home
>>>> system, I would use it only when moving around the house to "run" my
>>>> desktop remotely, if for no other reason than data protection. But the
>>>> time
>>>> cost of keeping everything I want in two places is prohibitive, and I
>>>> live
>>>> with the risk of data shock with everything on one system (laptop). I
>>>> compensate by regular full system backups, but if my laptop becomes
>>>> obsolete, that multi-partition backup probably will not be able to get
>>>> recovered to a new one. Happened just last year, my E6510 could not be
>>>> recovered to a E6530... although I have heard that with the 2014 edition
>>>> of
>>>> Acronis True Image one can recover from one hardware configuration to
>>>> another. I have my doubts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:31 PM, John W Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   LOL, my HP laptop has the worst keyboard I have EVER run into.  I use a
>>>>> wireless keyboard and mouse.  The laptop is propped up against the wall
>>>>>
>>>> at
>>>>
>>>>> the edge of the table, completely out of the way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John W. Colby
>>>>>
>>>>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>>>>> when you do not believe in it
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/7/2014 11:23 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   I'm the same.  I do all of my work on a laptop with external mouse
>>>>>> (wireless) and second
>>>>>> monitor attached   (the laptop primary screen is 15.6in - 1366 x 768).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't bother with an external keyboard since the laptop has a full
>>>>>> keyboard with numeric
>>>>>> keypad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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