[AccessD] apocalypse someday...

John W Colby jwcolby at gmail.com
Mon Mar 10 00:13:07 CDT 2014


And here I went and changed the subject line TWICE.  My apologies.

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 3/10/2014 1:05 AM, Bill Benson wrote:
> Well you have baited me/us so I will take the bait Tony, although you have
> put that chip on your shoulder before daring people to knock it off for
> you... I hate to waste good bait, even if it is yours.
>
> First I dis not mean to insult you, I was being clever. Maybe too clever by
> half. I BEG YOUR PARDON!
>
> I will also add that hardware is important to getting work done, as are all
> things twxhnologulical.
>
> Now, don't tell me that you really hung in there for 50 or so posts on a
> single thread which BEGAN with an OT kind of subject (and no one changed
> that subject TG so all posts stayed in my inbox grouped in the same
> conversation)... only to kick us now? ;)
>
> Don't look for insult where none is meant.
>
> Also, last I checked, you can't get much done with Access when you can't
> get much work done at all. AND THAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE IGNORE TECH.
>
> Good night all!
> On Mar 9, 2014 9:58 PM, "Tony Septav" <TSeptav at uniserve.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey All
>> You PMO
>> I am a programmer and developer, not a TECH FAN. This is an ACCESS line not
>> a forum for a bunch of techie boys, go somewhere else to discuss. Do not
>> insult me. I truly take offence at your pompous attitudes.
>>
>> This is why this list has fallen apart. Like or leave it.
>>
>> Tony Septav
>> Nanaimo, BC
>> Canada
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Benson
>> Sent: March-09-14 7:43 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] apocalypse someday...
>>
>> Nor is he apparently a fan of tech fans. Probably not a fan of fans of tech
>> fans either, LOL...
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tony:
>>>
>>> You are obviously not a tech fan or this question would never have to be
>>> asked. ;-)
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tony Septav" <TSeptav at Uniserve.com>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
>>> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 4:07:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] apocalypse someday...
>>>
>>> Hey All
>>> Who cares. This is the biggest ditz I have ever seen.
>>>
>>> Tony Septav
>>> Nanaimo, BC
>>> Canada
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W Colby
>>> Sent: March-09-14 5:40 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] apocalypse someday...
>>>
>>>   >>An aside but a worthy note: Was at a friends place the yesterday and
>> his
>>> recommendation is to
>>> never use a SSD in a RAID...all SSD or none...there is nothing like
>>> learning
>>> the hard way.
>>>
>>> LOL, I have a 1 terabyte raid 5 array with hot backup.  It is not for
>> speed
>>> but for redundancy.
>>> That said, striping the data across 5 drives ups the transfer speed
>>> immensely.
>>>
>>> Of course the array is hosted on a dedicated raid card, NOT on the
>> built-in
>>> SATA ports.  I was able
>>> to get (7) 200gb SSDs and form the raid array for under $2000 including
>> the
>>> cost of the card.
>>>
>>> It is for my large databases on my SQL Server and it absolutely smokes
>>> loading stuff into RAM.
>>> Since I have 90GB of RAM dedicated to the SQL Server, being able to load
>>> RAM
>>> quickly becomes an
>>> issue.  With a RAID array and a dedicated controller I get over 1 gb /
>> sec
>>> load speeds off of two
>>> year old technology drives (SATA3).
>>>
>>> I will be replacing those in the next few months with new Samsung EVO
>>> drives
>>> and probably doubling
>>> that speed.  Loading large database containers into SSDs is one area
>> where
>>> the benefit pays for
>>> itself quickly.
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>>
>>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>>> when you do not believe in it
>>>
>>> On 3/9/2014 4:42 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>>> Hi Bill:
>>>>
>>>> An aside but a worthy note: Was at a friends place the yesterday and
>> his
>>> recommendation is to never use a SSD in a RAID...all SSD or none...there
>> is
>>> nothing like learning the hard way.
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bill Benson" <vbacreations at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 11:08:25 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] apocalypse someday...
>>>>
>>>> Along the lines of SSD upgrade...I am considering upgrading my DELL
>> E6530
>>>> HDD to a SSD.
>>>>
>>>> I think with DELLs I can rely on the CD ROM Bay accepting a 2nd hard
>>> drive
>>>> caddy - for between $30-$50. I don't know the speed it is capable of,
>> but
>>> it
>>>> would give me a place have the two drives in the laptop at the same
>> time,
>>>> and I rarely use the CD/DVD.
>>>>
>>>> If I were to migrate my current drive which is 750GB but using < 300GB
>> to
>>> a
>>>> 500GB Crucial SSD, would I have problems?
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know whether using the installed Acronis software's Clone
>>>> function (while Win 7 is running) will be a safe way to get the new
>> drive
>>>> operational?
>>>>
>>>> Will the result be optimized for that new drive, or will I have wished
>> I
>>> had
>>>> done a clear install and put all my programs on again (sigh...)
>>>>
>>>> Another alternative is to "Recover" a TIB stored either on the older
>> HDD,
>>> or
>>>> on Buffalo Linkstation, to the new drive. This could be done (1) using
>>>> bootable Acronis media, if the new drive is put into the HDD bay, or
>> (2)
>>>> using Acronis software with the old drive still in the HDD bay and the
>>> new
>>>> drive in the CD ROM bay, or vice versa... OR SO I THINK.
>>>>
>>>> Last, if any of those approaches work, I should be able to then put the
>>> old
>>>> HDD in modular bay, in a caddy, and put the new SSD in the DELL HDD
>> port,
>>> at
>>>> which point I probably need to buy an adaptor so it fits in there with
>>> the
>>>> right form factor.
>>>>
>>>> I am assuming that DELL treats whatever is in the HDD bay as primary,
>> and
>>>> anything in the modular bay as secondary, but I hardly know.
>>>>
>>>> So to rack 'em up, need to purchase:
>>>>             2.5" SSD
>>>>             2.5" internal caddy for DELL HDD
>>>>             9" modular bay HDD caddy for 2.5" drives
>>>>
>>>>
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