Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com
Tue Mar 25 08:03:55 CDT 2014
hmmmmm just been reading the posts, while I am still waiting for a friend to get back to me so I can start on a sample manufacturing software piece for his company, I am looking at tiny little projects such as address books etc so that I can attempt to learn vb.net, now I have always used bound forms in Access and VB6 front-ends, but would prefer to start looking unbound, now as far as I know this means a lot more coding, but a lot more control...could anyone point me to a good section for unbound forms in VB.net and the best practices for this. Paul On 25 March 2014 05:31, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Bill: > > Correct me if I am wrong but are not the major systems in all businesses > the POS. Accounting, advertising, human resources, inventory and analysis > are very important but without the POS there is no business. > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Benson" <bensonforums at gmail.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" < > accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:49:53 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Unbound Form Check For Changes > > Jim, Maybe I was not clear, I am saying there is hardly a need BEYOND a POS > system and most of the ones I have seen are not MS Access based. They are > coded up and maintained as canned solutions and there is no general demand > for Access Developers to customize in house. > > If your experience differs...? > On Mar 24, 2014 9:51 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Hi Bill: > > > > I made my livelihood, for almost ten years supporting various > > franchises...none of them could do without a POS system...there is > probably > > a hundred different flavours of POS systems out there. Every company had > > their own special products. > > > > Some of the senior company programmers had worked their entire lives on a > > particular product version...it is amazing how many proprietary packages > > are out there built on just about every database you have heard of and > > many, I would bet, you have never heard of. > > > > In the bigger centres, or any place where there is reliable internet, > > everything is going web based. > > > > Unfortunately, MS Access has never managed to be considered appropriate > > for either corporate desktops or the web. The product, though it has an > > immense list of features, has suffered the same fate as now has befallen > IE > > and Windows 8.x. Once, the curse of the developer community has been > placed > > on a product no amount of advertising dollars can bring it back from > > oblivion. > > > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Benson" <bensonforums at gmail.com> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" < > > accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 5:23:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Unbound Form Check For Changes > > > > A huge number of businesses use outsourced IT, no IT at all, or canned > SW. > > Many would say that they survive on web mail, a smartphone, and either a > > tablet or a Mac or both. > > > > What does being a small business necessarily have to do with using a > > database, a lot tools are pay as you go for them... or they use Google > > Docs. I know people who use Word as their database, more who use Excel, > but > > many medical practices and shopkeepers, cab companies- use special > business > > management sw for their industry including contact mgt, POS, payroll, and > > billing... and an accountant who tells them what to file. They sure as > heck > > aren't asking for custom development in Access. > > > > On Mar 24, 2014 7:23 PM, "John W Colby" <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > At the insurance company call center I wrote, they had 25 users in all > > day > > > and no sign of slowness. Their problem became (after 9 years) that > their > > > DATA outgrew the MDB containers. And yet they refused to even discuss > a > > > SQL Server express solution. Of course at that time the SQL Server > > Express > > > limited you to 2 gig containers which was not much help. > > > > > > The thing about any company is that often there are different > databases, > > > with different usage patterns. It is pretty certain that in a 100 > person > > > company, there will never be 100 people in the database. > > > > > > Furthermore the numbers say that over 4 million of those companies have > > > less than 20 people. > > > > > > There is simply no argument that SQL Server Express would be a superior > > > solution, even for these very small companies, but MDBs work fine there > > as > > > well. > > > > > > John W. Colby > > > > > > Reality is what refuses to go away > > > when you do not believe in it > > > > > > On 3/24/2014 7:00 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > > > >> Hi John: > > >> > > >> Valid numbers but what is the maximum number of people that can really > > >> use a bound version of the MDB. I have never seen more than about > twenty > > >> people (maybe less) and even at times, with that small number, with > > heavy > > >> usage things were really grinding. > > >> > > >> For the big numbers in data and users, I am still a real ADO fan. > > >> > > >> Jim > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --- > > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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