Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Tue Mar 25 09:26:46 CDT 2014
John -- It all depends of technology (binding source types - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms743643.aspx )/ORM frameworks ( http://www.frozenelephant.com/List_Of_Dot_Net_ORM_Frameworks.html ) used in back-end-to-UI mapping - as I have noted the automation level of everything including edit collision detection/handling can be from 100% down to 0%. -- Shamil Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:01:19 -0400 from John W Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com>: >Shamil, > >How is edit collision handled? Is it the typical "The data has been edited" warning and subsequent >edit discards? > >John W. Colby > >Reality is what refuses to go away >when you do not believe in it > >On 3/25/2014 9:57 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote: >> Hi Paul -- >> >> In modern .NET Windows Forms or WPF or SilverLight apps "pure unbound forms" are rarely used for "data-driven" applications. By "data-driven" applications I mean the class of applications, which were/are usually developed using MS Access. In .NET you can "automagically" bind literally everything to the UI controls without manual coding - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms743643.aspx . What you get are bound but disconnected from back-end forms/controls. So "the only task" is to retrieve data to be displayed in disconnected bound forms/controls/store changed data to back-end. This "only task" can be 100% automatic (no any manual coding needed) or at any degree - 1% to 100% manually coded - it all depends on what back-end-to-UI mapping technologies a developer/ development team prefer, how much customization freedom they wanted to have in back-end-to-UI mapping. >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- Shamil >> >> Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:03:55 +0000 from Paul Hartland < paul.hartland at googlemail.com >: >>> hmmmmm just been reading the posts, while I am still waiting for a friend >>> to get back to me so I can start on a sample manufacturing software piece >>> for his company, I am looking at tiny little projects such as address books >>> etc so that I can attempt to learn vb.net, now I have always used bound >>> forms in Access and VB6 front-ends, but would prefer to start looking >>> unbound, now as far as I know this means a lot more coding, but a lot more >>> control...could anyone point me to a good section for unbound forms in >>> VB.net and the best practices for this. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> On 25 March 2014 05:31, Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Bill: >>>> >>>> Correct me if I am wrong but are not the major systems in all businesses >>>> the POS. Accounting, advertising, human resources, inventory and analysis >>>> are very important but without the POS there is no business. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Bill Benson" < bensonforums at gmail.com > >>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" < >>>> accessd at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:49:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Unbound Form Check For Changes >>>> >>>> Jim, Maybe I was not clear, I am saying there is hardly a need BEYOND a POS >>>> system and most of the ones I have seen are not MS Access based. They are >>>> coded up and maintained as canned solutions and there is no general demand >>>> for Access Developers to customize in house. >>>> >>>> If your experience differs...? >>>> On Mar 24, 2014 9:51 PM, "Jim Lawrence" < accessd at shaw.ca > wrote: >>>> >> <<< skipped >>> >