[AccessD] Backend database corruption

Dan Waters df.waters at outlook.com
Fri Feb 20 13:38:15 CST 2015


Hi Janet,

One more thing I was thinking of is to set up error trapping and recording
in the FE apps in the procedures where the data transfer is happening.  You
can set up an procedure that looks for an unsent error and sends that to you
by email so you get a timely notice of when an error happened, along with
the error code and especially the description, and the specific PC's name.
You can search on error descriptions to get a fuller meaning, and that can
help prove/disprove an idea of what's going wrong.  If this all happens on
one or two problem PC's, you'll know!

Good Luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 13:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Backend database corruption

THANK YOU ALL for your responses - this is all very helpful.  I'm going to
push for hard wiring all of the connections as soon as possible;  I also
like the idea of logging when the write operations are happening to see how
much overlapping traffic there is.

I think the CSV approach is very interesting too, and will bring that up in
a meeting next week along with presenting the SQL backend option.  I think
we would try the CSV approach first. It would be difficult to convert to a
SQL backend, I think, on the 20 hours a week that they've alotted
me...especially since more than half of that time is via remote connection.

Again - thank you all.  I am much relieved to have a few options to pursue!



On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Darryl Collins <
darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> wrote:

> Yes.  John is spot on.  These would be my primary solutions to this 
> issue as well.
>
> Cheers
> Darryl.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, 20 February 2015 8:06 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Backend database corruption
>
> Loss of connection while writing to an Access DB is a known issue, 
> never fixed, and probably unfixable.
>
> Don't use Wifi / WAN with an Access BE.
>
> The best option is to move the BE to a SQL Server BE.  That will 
> absolutely solve this issue.  If you must continue to use Access as 
> the BE, then write CSVs to a directory on the server and have an 
> Access app RUNNING ON THE SERVER watch for these CSVs and import them 
> into the table.  At least if the write to the CSV file is interrupted, 
> it does not corrupt the BE.
>
> John W. Colby
>
> On 2/19/2015 3:01 PM, Janet Erbach wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > It's been years since I've addressed this group, so please be 
> > patient with me while I get back into the swing of this.
> >
> > I've been an Access developer for the last 15 years or so.  Until 
> > recently I created straightforward apps used on a small group of 
> > hardwired networked computers that had 5 or 6 users in the app at 
> > the
> same time.
> >
> > Last year I took a job with a large manufacturing plant, and just 
> > deployed a very complex app that I co-wrote with one of the 
> > access-fluent production supervisors.  It is supposed to run 
> > non-stop on 20+ machines, all with WIFI connections.  It writes 
> > machine production data to a set of front-end tables;  every 15 
> > minutes the app checks to see if there is network connectivity - if 
> > there is, the front-end table data is posted to the back-end tables 
> > on the network, the front-end tables are emptied, and the loop begins
again.
> >
> > The app worked pretty well when it was running on one or two machines.
> > Now that it's up on 20 machines, the back end is corrupting multiple 
> > times during the day - which, of course, brings the whole show to a 
> > halt.  The error log seems to indicate that loss of a network 
> > connection during the back-end write operation proceeds the corruption.
> >
> > I have two questions.  Will hard wiring the network connection to 
> > these machines go a long way towards stopping the corruption?  Is 
> > there anything else that could be contributing to this that I need 
> > to be
> aware of?
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > Janet Erbach
>
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