[AccessD] Windows 8 -> 10

Sun Sep 6 18:12:06 CDT 2015

Hi Bill,

In my case I used a clean box install as
1: The PC was Monica's old XP unit, which I had wiped fully and was thinking about using a test server or something
2: I signed up for the Windows 10 insider preview so I wanted to use a beta-box for that and not a real live useful PC
3: That worked out well, as in the early days there were a few times when the latest update would fry the system and a clean re-install was necessary.

On my 'real' PC's I am waiting for a few more months at least before updating to W10.  They are still fixing stuff, although it is pretty good and I like it - I also know that waiting costs nothing and generally pays dividends.

Cheers
Darryl

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Benson
Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2015 10:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 -> 10

Why wiping drive, won't win10 load itself without that? I upgraded my surface pro 3 with so fuss. Are your posts Gustav and Darryl an indication I won't get off so easy with my Dell Latitude? Ie, have to wipe the drive?
On Sep 6, 2015 7:34 AM, "Darryl Collins" <darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au>
wrote:

> Yes. Agree.  My windows 10 beta box is my wife's old XP unit.  Clean 
> install from a wiped drive using Office 2016 preview.  It is super 
> fast and I have been really happy with it to date.  Boots in about 10 
> seconds flat, which is fairly astounding.
>
> There are a few minor issues with the UI on windows 10, but that maybe 
> me learning new tricks.
>
> Let say I have liked it out of the box, which is something I never 
> felt with win 8.
>
> Cheers
> Darryl
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2015 5:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving < 
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 -> 10
>
> Hi all
>
> Having great success with Windows 10 on my other machines, I decided 
> to go for the ultimate test ... to give this old Pavilion - now ten 
> (10) years old - an update.
>
> I did a clean install, and it ran fast without any trouble. It even 
> found the old Bluetooth device, actually all devices except - as 
> expected - the ATI Mobility Radeon X600 chip and a native media card. 
> However, the old Vista drivers for these, which worked for Windows 7 and 8.1, still works.
>
> The only issue I encountered was the same as many others have 
> reported, that on some older hardware the FastStart option doesn't 
> work. It is turned on by default, but it somehow blocks before the 
> login screen appears. But even with FastStart turned off, this old machine boots in 30 seconds.
>
> Once again I have to say that Office 365 screams. With our MAPS 
> subscription we have five(!) full Office 2013 (soon 2016) installs for 
> each user (five users max.) and even on this old machine it downloads 
> and installs in minutes. I don't know how MS does this, but it is way 
> faster than dealing with DVDs or downloaded ISOs.
>
> Also OneDrive is excellent. I just tell which Microsoft account to use 
> and tells Windows to sync my settings, and in a few minutes I have the 
> desktop background picture and many other settings than on my other 
> machines. And, of course, a synced cloud drive that appears on the 
> machine as any other drive. When I take a picture on my Lumia phone, 
> within a minute or so, it is present in the picture folder on all my machines.
>
> Back to Windows 10: I also installed it on wife's home machine - an 
> older
> i3 Fujitsu running Windows 7 running "slow" (= experienced) indeed for 
> booting. Mounted it with an Intel SSD and Windows 10, and she hardly 
> believed here eyes. It is now on in five seconds.
>
> Conclusion: To bring new life to any machine, replace HDD with SDD and 
> install Windows 10.
>
> /gustav
>
> ________________________________________
> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < 
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> på vegne af Gustav Brock < 
> gustav at cactus.dk>
> Sendt: 13. september 2014 13:27
> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Emne: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8
>
> Hi all
>
> Well, this old zd8237 is now nearly 9 years old and still in good shape.
>
> So I decided to beef it up with a 128 GB SSD drive and Windows 8.1 
> Update 2, of course as 32-bit.
>
> It installed in half an hour. The trouble was - as expected - the old 
> Radeon X600 chip for which the latest driver is for Vista.
> I managed to fix this:
>
>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/94640ce9-9160
> -4166-8908-acffab5c71d5/ati-mobility-radeon-x600-driver-update-install
> s-but-screen-goes-black?forum=w7itprohardware&prof=required
>
> The machine now boots in 25 seconds to the logon screen (domain logon) 
> and
> 5 seconds more to the Desktop and runs as well as ever before.
>
> So this must be the end to the myth that Windows 7/8 doesn't run on 
> old hardware.
>
> /gustav
>
> ________________________________________
> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com < 
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> på vegne af Gustav Brock
> Sendt: 2. december 2011 22:48
> Til: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Emne: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Of course, most old hardware won't do.
>
> But I just installed Windows 7 Pro on my 6 years old HP 17" Pavilion
> zd8000 (zd8237) laptop (P4, 3 GHz, 2 GB ram, 90 GB disk, ATI Radeon 
> X600 with DirectX 9) and it runs of course not fast but smoothly.
>
> It took a little to locate the legacy ATI video drivers for Vista, though.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> jimdettman at verizon.net 01-12-2011 22:11 >>>
>
>  Try running Win 7 on older hardware and you won't like it.
>
> Jim.
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