[AccessD] Dell 5348 SSD upgrade

[Heenan, Lambert]

Iron Oxide. The basis of the magnetic surface of disks. :-)

Lambert  

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From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Benson
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 9:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dell 5348 SSD upgrade

What is spinning rust?

On Aug 15, 2016 7:20 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> A TB SSD with a price tag equivalent to our current spinning rust 
> would make a fabulous small DB server.
>
> Jim
>
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> From: "James Button" <jamesbutton at blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" < 
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 6:26:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dell 5348 SSD upgrade
>
> Have a look at the latest microSD's  256GB? And 10 times faster than 4 
> years ago.
>
> But then consider that rotating hard drive  process are pretty much 
> the same per GB as cheap DVD's
>
> And -  their manufacturing costs, shipping costs, as well as the 
> annual power usage costs.
>
> Add to that, that modern SSD's tend to last longer now, and when they 
> fail, they often do so  with some warning.
>
> Me, I've been looking for a SSD card sized carrier that will run 4, or 
> more microSD chips as separate storage I did see some that used 4 
> microSD's as a raid 5? assembly.
> But I want to be able to move the MicroSD's to another carrier and 
> access the data there after 1 chip? Fails on the original assembly.
>
> So, 5 years seems about right -
> 25% less cost for 25% more capacity a year on rotating.
> 25% less cost for 50 to 100% more capacity a year on MicroSD and 
> probably SSD's.
>
> Phone users will probably be taking the brunt of the cost in that 
> development.
>
> JimB
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 6:14 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dell 5348 SSD upgrade
>
> Five years tops....?
>
> Jim
>
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> From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dell 5348 SSD upgrade
>
> Did the same upgrade 2 years ago.  Same kind of boost in speed.  Like 
> going to dual monitors - you can never go back.
>
> How long will it be before rotating storage - like VHS tapes - pretty 
> much disappears?
>
>
> r
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> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf 
> Of John Colby
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:12 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; 
> jwcolby at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dell 5348 SSD upgrade
>
> SSDs are much cheaper these days.  This specific drive was $140. Not 
> bad for
> 512 gb of SSD goodness.  And it is a pretty darned fast SSD on top of that.
> Maybe faster than my little Core3 could really make use of.
>
> The thought did enter my mind, is it worth spending $25-$40 more for 
> the absolute best (Samsung)?  The answer is probably not.  The 
> incremental gain is likely not even detectable, at least with my 
> processor and what I use the machine for.
>
> I am jazzed by the actual difference in performance.
>
> On 8/13/2016 10:59 PM, Bill Benson wrote:
> > I discovered this about 2 years back. SSDs are expensive and I have 
> > heard that they can develop defects from excessive read - writes but 
> > I have not experienced any trouble in 3 years ownership. Other than 
> > accidentally keeping Google drive installed and running when I 
> > uploaded a bunch of stuff from other PCs and it maxed out my drive 
> > to the last bit of space and I couldn't work with it any more. Had 
> > to decide at that point how to save my drive, deleted stuff before 
> > uninstalling Drive, and wiped out my cloud storage. I think I got 
> > some
> stuff back, can't recall.
> >
> > I really should learn to read documentation. No wait, this is Google 
> > I'm kidding myself, they document nothing in any useful way, they 
> > just release stuff and expect you to figure it out.
> >
> > On Aug 13, 2016 10:48 PM, "John Colby" <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I just upgraded my Dell 5348 "All-in-one" from a 5400 RPM 1 tb 
> >> drive to a SanDisk X400 2.5" 512GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive.
> >>
> >> I timed the time from power on to login screen.
> >>
> >> With the 5400 rpm disk it took TWO DAMNED MINUTES (!!!!!) to get to 
> >> the login screen.
> >>
> >> With the SSD it took 15 seconds.
> >>
> >> With the hard disk it took 45 more seconds to get from login screen 
> >> to the desktop with all the desktop icons loaded.
> >>
> >> With the SSD it took an additional 3 seconds.
> >>
> >> 2:45 from turn on to desktop ready (plus time to type in the
> >> password) for the hard disk
> >>
> >> 0:18 total from turn on to desktop ready (plus time to type in the
> >> password) for the SSD.
> >>
> >> And this is a puny little 2 core Core3 (4 logical) at 3:3 ghz.
> >> Suddenly it is a snappy little machine.
> >>
> >> What a difference an SSD makes.  :)
> >>
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