[AccessD] FW: Office 365

Wed Aug 31 07:36:52 CDT 2016

I log on from any pc in the university and instant access to all files including save as links in word etc.

I OneNote a meeting and same including my phone, pc, tablet etc

Email for around 30000 users free, SharePoint for same free. Office 2013 for same free. Office 2016  free including install on 5 devices free.

Unlimited storage free.

Hard to beat.

Martin

Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: James Button<mailto:jamesbutton at blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent: ‎31/‎08/‎2016 12:33
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Office 365

Wadda U mean - NOT fun.

It's great fun for the user -
Such interesting times, so many novel experiences and - well OK some deja-vu.

Sorry for typo's etc. Was trying to get out before Noon - Ha! OK it was just a
passing thought (hope).
And still cannot get over the Chat-line "Tech" saying he didn't know the source
of the message -
As I had not got a paid-for support contract he wouldn't help, or even advise me
how to determine if it was from MS -

So advised I should just                CLICK ON DISMISS  -

Re outlook 2016 file update - bet those taking the 30 day trial were 'appy.
Meant to say occasionally I get outlook 2010 invoked from a web page - I moved
the files so it gets upset about that rather than their 2016 content.
  (conversion to 2016 from 2010 was not much of a problem - all seemed to come
across OK - just needed to sort out some columns and views - and the new font
selection and read/not read changed mode - more spacing so less on the screen)
There are some things missing from the 2016 app setup options and you'll need to
setup some ribbon commands etc. for all the extra things that are in the NOT ON
RIBBON list.
Formats etc.

If considering the actual 365 apps - there is a lot you cannot do with the
online apps
 - as in
Onedrive is not setup to be a safe to use environment for file storage, let
alone co-operative file management.
And the msword app will not handle most of the file formats the PC based version
will,
And the Excel app is getting lots of additional data handling facilities - but
there is not the VBA control facilities, or multi-workbook handling facility.

Then again - that is the 'Family' version, Maybe, just maybe the Business
version of the 365 package is lots better -
Well, you'll be paying all that extra for the uprated facilities and support!
(S a r c h a s m  !)

Regards

JimB

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John
Colby
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Office 365

Wow, does not sound like fun.

jwcolby

On 8/31/2016 5:09 AM, James Button wrote:
> Well first - you don't get a choice of the 2016 apps installed -
> They will replace 2013 - and be installed alongside 2010
>
> Using Outlook - well your email store (etc) will be updated to 2016
> And - most of your links (from email and links in web pages) will also be
2016'd
> - most, not all, so expect the occasional link (such as form filling - to
report
> things )
>
> So - backup your .pst and .ost files
> ----------------
>
> Onedrive (OK not strictly 365 - but there is a major uplift to 365 storage as
> part of the 365 facility)
>
> You get 1TB of space to use -
> Well on my 100Mb/s link I managed to upload (Drag'n'Drop) under 3GB in a day
> Was to have been 3GB of files from a documentation folder - but some of the
> files didn’t get "MOVE'd"
>                (OK COPY - but Onedrive says MOVE)
>
> There is a 'pending' and 'what-happened- window - but it's not scrollable -
> so you cannot see the ends of filenames,
> or more than the first 7? Entries -                           and that's on a
> 1920x1080 screen
>
> Also - you cannot get a computer manageable list of what is on the Onedrive,
and
> drag-n-drop only does files - not folders -
> so you cannot just drag a folder of stuff - e.g. .htm pages won't have the
> linked folder of images taken over -
>
> There is no quota, so sharing a folder in editable mode means that all your
> space can be used up -   and see the terms for what happens if you fill up the
storage allocation.  Also if you don't actively use the account for a while!
>
> Also sync is a pain - and if you 'sync' to a shared folder the sync can take
> ages to allow you to start working.
>
> So - Using 365 is not an easy way into SAFE cloud usage.
>
> Also - only the basic filetypes and formats of those types can be processed by
> the online 365 apps - NO you cannot check a csv file.
> And macros are NOT allowed - so that's anything with VBA  'automation' out of
> the picture - .com addins - maybe - but is your automation written and setup
as
> a .com or .dll
> Also outlook.com -  well surely your ISP provides a passable online email
> facility
> I haven't managed to get mail, or outlook.com to work - and sync of accounts -
> probably only the last 30 days stuff.
>
> ------------------
>
> Now - for some recent fun! - note the end of the story...
>
> I got a banneracross the middle of the screen - blue pop-up type, and it
blocked all other access to the system - no id on the message which stated
> "Terms are changing" - with 2 selection boxes - "Learn More" and "Dismiss"
>            Wallswitch - and then malware check -            nothing.
>
> Restarted the system - started task-manager and then went back to what I had
> been doing.
> This time I did not have the weather app in fullscreen mode when the pop-up
> popped up again, and could do other things
> Yes - it seems to be triggered by the start panel "weather app" ?
> So - with it onscreen, but a system that was functioning
> I Contacted the MS chat line - well I have something on the system that has
got
> past windows 10 malware checks - Firewall and Defender and is not showing in
> TaskManager!
>
> My question to the techy      -                is this from Microsoft
(inbedded
> in the OS, windows-update or an App             or is it a MALWARE carrier
that
> got past MS security?
>
> The tech's response - don't know, you'd need paid support for me to run a
> facility to find out - You should just    CLICK ON DISMISS  -
>
> Er Yes - so Microsoft advice is
 If you don't know who a pop-up is from - just click on it!
>
> My further investigation - that unowned pop-up links to a Microsoft page
telling
> me that the terms of my use of Microsoft products has changed as of the 2nd
> August
> And I got this unidentified hidden? Link to it on the 23rd August ..
>
>                                Among the things with changing TERMS is
Onedrive !
> -----------------
>
> OK - the reason I went to 365 -
>
> I have to have 2106 to match clients systems ( going from Win-7 2007/2010
> environments to win-10 and current Office versions).
> And - now also 365 -                          so I need  to see what they can,
> and CANNOT do, and find ways past the glitches and changes .
>
> 365 family seemed - even as an annual cost, with just £10 a year extra to be
> more cost effective as a family (5 user, 15 devices) facility.
>
> Personal use - the Cloud facilities of Onedrive - multi-device and user
sharing,
> remote access? Backup storage!
> For work use - 365 means your 2016 gets updated with the latest goodies   (see
> all the Excel improvements) that the 365 based clients will be getting.
>>
> JimB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:15 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: [AccessD] FW: Office 365
>
> One of my local colleagues, Polly Arndt, asks about experiences you have had
> with O360.
>
> Any input welcome.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin

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