[AccessD] An app default was reset - was Further to keyboard problem

James Button jamesbutton at blueyonder.co.uk
Tue Mar 8 10:53:04 CST 2016


Gustav,
Agreed - 

"stable level is preferable"
To most users.


Most of my annoyance is that Microsoft are not providing that - either within an
instance of their software, or, within the progress of the software they
provide.



As in it is not necessary to completely change the user interface - or ship part
completed products - as in
The, for the unwary,  IE replacement with Edge. 

And the change to the update process - 
A prime instance of what I am complaining about being that you need to have
specialist and somewhat in-depth knowledge of Windows in order to maintain a
stable working environment for just Windows 10 - as in dealing with problematic
updates. 
Used to be you could delay updates until a couple of days after the release -
and by rote - take a backup BEFORE the update run, and from that easily exclude
any reported as causing problems.

Now - by the time you hear about a problem it's already on your system - without
you getting a chance to take a backup of the system as-at-before the changes.
And - you then need to instigate a special 'startup' (if your system will
startup) in order to REMOVE the problematic change.
And  considering your Windows Drive backup facility - well if you have it
running frequently - then expect the updates to be incorporated into the restore
image before you find out you need to go-back to a prior image, let alone
actually get to work out how to, and actually get the PC to a state where you
can select the Restore process.

Again - technical action, that embodies problems for even the technically
knowledgeable and experienced,  imposed on all, including the non-technical who
just want to user their system as they normally do, and without any special
recovery actions being needed!



And - for those with XP 'stuff' that is not supported by Win 7 -
MS seem to be expending considerable effort in ensuring that they will find
difficulty getting a reset (to the shipped OEM licenced state)  XP system back
to the end-of-support date setting - e.g you cannot access the updater facility
with IE6 or 7, and you cannot install IE8 until you have updated an as -shipped
XP-SP1 or SP2 system to -SP3.

Anyone remember being told by the PC salesperson that Microsoft would take
action to make their purchase unusable after April 2014!
Well - we all have 300+ to get a replacement PC now, so we can endure the win-10
upgrades  before mid 2016, or pay 200 for a win-10 upgrade after that
  

JimB
 


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] An app default was reset - was Further to keyboard
problem

Hi James et al

I think you should have in mind that many - if not all - of these "actings" are
aimed at the average and below Windows user, given that a system functioning at
a lower but stable level is preferable to an unstable system.

When I meet a pc managed by a consumer user I'm often surprised at what level
even decent hardware can be mocked up - close to useless. And the owner has no
clue how to improve the situation other than buying a new computer and rerun the
saga.

You and most from this list can manage around the bumps.

/gustav

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Button
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Emne: Re: [AccessD] An app default was reset - was Further to keyboard problem

The .gif thing was a more recent change than the 16 Feb amusement.
But what really annoys is the - what do you want specifics for - attitude.

If the update process can generate a message that an app association was changed
- then it can identify the association - either by filetype, or by the app that
was disenfranchised, or even identify the app that got enfranchised.

Would MS be happy to get a message saying that "one of your payment requests has
been discounted"
Not likely - they'd almost certainly want some details - such as the payment
request (invoice/bill) id They'd also be unhappy if the organisation deciding to
ignore the request also started paying someone-else the money requested in their
'payment demands'.

JimB 

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 1:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] An app default was reset - was Further to keyboard
problem


Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. The smart money is on it being caused
by Windows update KB3135173. 

See
http://betanews.com/2016/02/16/has-windows-10-reset-your-default-apps-back-to-mi
crosoft-stock/
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2447177/updategate-windows-10-is-resett
ing-default-apps-back-to-microsoft-stock
for instance.

I removed it, which fixed the problem and so far it has not been forced back
onto my system (Windows 10 Home, so I have little control over updates).

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John R
Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 12:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Further to keyboard problem
Importance: High

I wholeheartedly agree. While I may not be able to run Windows Media Player on
my Windows phone -yet, maybe with the Lumia 950 I could :-P, I certainly can and
will use it on my PCs and other devices capable of doing so.

The pendulum may swing from one end of the arc to the other but I don't have to.
I still love the startup tune for Windows 98.

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