[AccessD] Help with an Access web app -- finding records without matching related records

Bill Benson bensonforums at gmail.com
Sat May 28 08:33:24 CDT 2016


Glad I did not jump into this thread in the middle.

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Martin Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:

> Bill could strip naked, crawl on his hands and knees to the lynix capital
> of the universe, beg like a dog and you still would not be happy jim!
>
> LoL
>
> Martin
> ________________________________
> From: Jim Lawrence<mailto:accessd at shaw.ca>
> Sent: ‎27/‎05/‎2016 20:29
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<mailto:
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with an Access web app -- finding records
> without matching related records
>
> Yes, but as I said Microsoft is just starting to move forward.
>
> Xamarin is a MIT licensed, open source SDK, recently purchased(?) by MS,
> this February, as a matter of fact. And AngularJS is an OS product created
> and borrowed from Google. Then there is Microsoft's recent Linux bash shell
> (Canonical). Then there is the Microsoft and Canonical collaboration that
> created the Linux based Azure Cloud product. All these and many more
> products are all very recent events.
>
> Not that I am complaining of course as all of this will make Microsoft a
> player in the market again. OTOH, I would hardly give credit to Microsoft,
> other than to say they finally embrace technology, tech that in some cases,
> has been perfected for a decade or more by other developers. Being a
> "born-again Christian", is not a bad thing and all I can say is why did it
> take so long and no, Microsoft did not create "Christianity". ;-)
>
> In summary, all this new technology has been around for years so in many
> cases, even though it is a challenge to Microsoft purists, it is old hat to
> many full-spectrum developers. If you are a Linux Guru, Microsoft is hiring.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:51:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with an Access web app      --      finding
> records without matching related records
>
> Jim,
>
> Not sure what your definition of a web app is but MS seems to be playing
> pretty well in this environment for the Visual studio community; see
> Xamarin
> for developing smart phone apps for Android and IOS, MVC with Angular or
> React for single page apps. If you use real tools you can pretty much do
> anything you want. You do have to make an investment in learning, but that
> is part of paying your dues.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim
> Lawrence
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:06 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with an Access web app -- finding records
> without matching related records
>
> Right now there is thousands or more accurately tens of thousands of web
> apps and hundreds more being created each day. In Vancouver, alone, there
> are over 5.5K companies developing web applications but they are not
> Microsoft developers.
>
> Microsoft is just starting to build a system that can create a viable web
> app but they are many years behind. MS produced great desktop applications,
> maybe the best, but that is not the new economy.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:14:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with an Access web app -- finding   records
> without matching related records
>
> Actually...
>
> If the 365 sub with SharePoint catches on, I can see Access web apps being
> very useful. I'm already planning my next Salato app.
>
> As MS moves toward more mobile app support and collecting data in the
> field,
> I can see Access Web apps filling a collection and viewing niche.  And,
> it's
> certainly easier to use -- a few hours and you've working. That's a long
> way
> from Access desktop. I realize there are other technologies, but Access Web
> apps is easy.
>
> I don't think MS is doing a good job on pr.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
> Susan,
>
>  You will find the number of people using web apps to be very few and far
> between.
>
>  Microsoft has been taking a stab at web apps since 2007.  2010 was a
> refinement of 2007.
>
>  2013 was a complete reboot of the whole thing.  Since 2013, I know of
> exactly four  developers that have taken a shot at them and that includes
> you<g>.
>
>  To my knowledge, there still remains only one web based Access app in the
> windows store.
>
> Jim.
>
>
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