[AccessD] [dba-OT] Web site download

Sun May 29 12:10:56 CDT 2016

See the "fair use agreement". It is codified in the US but all countries have accepted this interpretation, as in reality, the alternative is unenforceable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

This is why crowd funding, patreon sites, product sites with contribution, donation and tip buttons installed are everywhere. Community funded news, training, service, applications, continue to grow. The beauty of these methods of funding is that the funds go directly to the creators. This type of direct maker and creator payment system could not exist if there was no internet. People are voting with their wallets...great products flourish and bad products disappear.

Here is one example of how successful crowd-funding can be, giving a new product, who makers' have requested one million in funding and their public request for funds has now exceeded that request over 9 times and the campaign is still on for another thirty days: http://kck.st/27XWMjz
The free market system in its purest form (with limited or no middlemen at all). :-)

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:51:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-OT] Web site download

As a case in point, I have been accumulating VBA code snippets for a decade
or two, and storing them all in MS OneNote. I'm thinking of converting this
to a web site. All code snippets come with their authors' attributes.
Gustav and Shamil and Martin Reid and Breen have contributed valuable code
which I have faithfully preserved, and would like to make available.

All the code that I didn't write is accredited to the authors of same. I
wish to publish all of this. All accreditations are intact in the code that
I propose to post.

Does anyone, particularly the authors of code I want to include, which was
freely contributed to this web site, have any objection to this project?
I'm eager not to step on anyone's toes, with extra-special attention to
Gustav, JWC, Sturart amd others on this list, while also eager to share the
insights within these snippets.

Some portion of what I propose to post and make publicly available I wrote
myself. But I think that the collective weight of others outweighs my own
contributions. As I said, all the snippets I have collected contain
accreditations to their authors -- well I hope so,anyway. Some of the
snippets contain no reference to their authors, and my attempts to accord
credit where credit is due may not have been updated in a timely and
accurate fashion.

This rather large collection of code snips is currently housed within a
OneNote notebook. I'm not exactly sure how to convert this into a
collection of web pages -- I'll figure that out in due time, but I just
want to be sure that my intentions are clear: no profit motive lurks
anywhere within this project. I just want to share all the Access VBA stuff
I've collected over the years. I personally find this collection an
invaluable resource, to which I turn frequently when faced with some new
task to accomplish in Access (or Word or Excel) using VBA code.

I have sent this OneNote notebook to a couple of listers, who have
described the collection as a treasure-trove or a cornucopia of snippets.
So I wish to make it publicly available, with no profit motive in sight and
none intended.

Does anyone have any insights as to how to convert a OneNote notebook into
a series of web pages? I could do it by hand, but there are numerous
sections within which are dozens of pages, and conversion by hand could
take a while.

Arthur

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Dickford Cohn <dickford1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's a good question. I don't know the answer. Leaving it where it is
> shouldn't present a burden, I would think. I'm guessing...but this suggests
> that there is some sort of ongoing financial arrangement that is required
> to be maintained with contributors, etc. That plus any extended liability.
> Just a wild-ass guess, of course.
>
> Dickford
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 12:29 PM, John R Bartow <jbartow at winhaven.net>
> wrote:
>
> > All good points. And I agree the author's rights are being trampled upon
> > by the internet remoras like google.
> >
> > An aside, how it is "saving them money" by taking the content down? Why
> > don't they just leave it as is?
> >
> > Seriously, if the small cost of hosting existing data is going to help
> > make the BBC solvent, then collapse can't be far behind.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dba-OT [mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > Dickford Cohn
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 7:56 AM
> > To: Off Topic
> > Subject: Re: [dba-OT] Web site download
> >
> > Excellent rebuttal, Bryan! No, you're not missing anything...
> >
> > BTW, how's the old bod doin'?
> >
> > Dickford
> >
> > On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Inline...
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > > That is of course technically speaking and what I have been
> > > > complaining
> > > about for a long time.
> > > >
> > > > Our governments have set the bar by feeling they have rights to
> > > everything and everyone. It is a do as we say not as we do. You can
> > > see why confusion as to who owns what is not as clear cut as it use to
> > be.
> > >
> > > What? I'm not sure what you are talking about. The content on the BBC
> > > website IS their IP unless they got the content from someone else. And
> > > in their terms they clearly state that.
> > >
> > > There is no confusion. The content, ANY content is owned by the
> > > author/creator. Full stop. They own it. They have the copyright on it.
> > > They get to decide how it gets used. Period. End of discussion. Ain't
> > > no confusion there. It is pretty clear.
> > >
> > > Even if they release the content as open source, it's still their
> > > copyright. They still get to decide how it's used by the open source
> > > licence they assign to it and if it gets misused, then they have every
> > > right to seek restitution in court.
> > >
> > > Maybe its difference in BC, bu that's the way it is everywhere I've
> been.
> > >
> > > > On the rights to books; many authors would be pleased of your
> > > > support
> > > but large corporations like Google seem to be able to interpret DRM as
> > > to their convenience and profit. As most books are not even printed it
> > > is unlikely that I will be able to find a rare author even in the book
> > > bin. An author whose only books are digital may be able to win the
> > > case of protecting their rights to receive fair payment but then they
> > > will have to be willing to market their own product on the web. An
> > > effort that is apparently too complex for most so many great books
> > > have just been lost...sad.
> > >
> > > Yea, and Google has been to court for the way they have interpreted
> > > DRM. Not sure what your point is.
> > >
> > > > Aside: I am sure there is a business opportunity waiting to be
> > > > explored
> > > but I am not up to the challenge.
> > > >
> > > > As for BBC's web information it is predicated around its subsequent
> > use.
> > > It basically can be used for free but only for personal use and the
> > > information can not be sold or distributed, in any format, without the
> > > express consent of BBC.
> > >
> > > Yea, and what's wrong with that? They own the content. It's their IP.
> > > They paid someone to come up with it, be it a food blog, a news story,
> > > a sports story, or anything else that's there. They get to decide how
> > > it's used.
> > >
> > > I really don't see why it's so hard to understand when someone creates
> > > something, they own the rights to decide how its' used, be it a person
> > > or a business. Unless I'm missing something.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> > > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a
> > > well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> > > shouting "What a great ride!"
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Arthur
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