[AccessD] Basic Question (Probably) that I just don't know

[Bill Benson]

Doesn't seem like it was your choice and... doesn't seem like they were in
their right mind. You just gave the people what they want and that's a
concession we have all had to make as we try to earn a living.

On Sep 24, 2016 4:49 PM, "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:

> Me  (don't know about the right mind!) :(
>
> Developed in 2010 for one organisation and then when we deployed it  I
> discovered that
> some people still only had Office 2007 installed :-(
>
> We ended up rolling out the 2010 runtime on thos work stations - they
> didn't want the
> expense of upgrading all of their office installations - "2007 is working
> fine!".
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> On 24 Sep 2016 at 15:09, Bill Benson wrote:
>
> > RE: " using 2010 and
> > then trying to drop back to 2007."
> >
> > Who in their right mind does that??!
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > David,
> > >
> > >  Not sure if you consider A2010 "good" or not, but A2010 was the
> > >  last
> > > version that had support for ADP's, replication, .DBF's, and JET
> > > 3.x. Here's the list of everything that was dropped starting with
> > > A2013:
> > >
> > > https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Discontinued-
> > > features-and-modified-
> > > functionality-in-Access-2013-BC006FC3-5B48-499E-8C7D-9A2DFEF68E2F
> > >
> > >  and FWIW, A2010 is pretty solid on the desktop side as long as you
> > >  moving
> > > forward.  Most of the issues with it were related to folks using
> > > 2010 and then trying to drop back to 2007.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> > > Behalf Of David McAfee Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 03:18 PM To:
> > > Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re:
> > > [AccessD] Basic Question (Probably) that I just don't know
> > >
> > > Jim, I think you meant to say:
> > >  A2010 was the last good version of Access.
> > >
> > > Actually:
> > >  A2003 was the last good version of Access.  ;)
> > >
> > > I miss ADPs.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Jim Dettman
> > > <jimdettman at verizon.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > <<
> > > > 1. Does Access still support replication?
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >  Starting with A2013, no.  A2010 was the last "full feature"
> > > >  version of
> > > > Access.  Replication was dropped along with ADP's.
> > > >
> > > > <<
> > > > 2. Why would a seasoned developer would choose an MDB or ACCDB
> > > > back end when so many actual database servers for free (SQL
> > > > Express, MySQL,
> > > MariaDB,
> > > > PostGreSQL, SQLite... the list goes on),
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >  A seasoned developer probably would not.
> > > >
> > > >  Only thing I could think of is if someone wanted to take
> > > >  advantage of
> > > > something in ACE which is not in any other DB (say the attachment
> > > > data type), which is being driven by a customer requirement.
> > > >
> > > >  The other reasons might be data type incompatibility (i.e. the
> > > >  fun you
> > > can
> > > > have with floating point and bit fields), and last but not least,
> > > > just
> > > ease
> > > > of use.   Even today, there is still a niche (now very small
> > > > though)
> > > where
> > > > a
> > > > ACE DB BE might make sense.  Someone with no real IT staff, small
> > > > databases, and small number of users.
> > > >
> > > >  But more often that not, some other BE is the way to go as you
> > > >  say.
> > > >
> > > > <<
> > > > One last thought: the port from an Access BE to a genuine server
> > > > DB facilitates the move to web/mobile apps, and that is a
> > > rapidly-increasing,
> > > > even dominant market segment. So Access developers have to be
> > > > planning an Exit Strategy, since it is quite clear that MS has
> > > > little or no interest
> > > in
> > > > providing one.
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >  I can't say much on that front other than to say pay attention to
> > > >  what
> > > is
> > > > being asked for on Access user voice:
> > > >
> > > > https://access.uservoice.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  You'll find that what most are looking for is improvements in the
> > > desktop
> > > > and I think Microsoft is listening to that.  While some people are
> > > looking
> > > > for a web product, most seem to want enhancements in the desktop
> > > > product.
> > > >
> > > >  Web apps are certainly gaining ground, in many businesses it's
> > > >  still a
> > > > more
> > > > traditional approach to applications for back office work.
> > > >
> > > > Jim.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > AccessD mailing list
> > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >
> > > --
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>