[AccessD] VPN

Sun Nov 14 16:06:21 CST 2021

"Resistance is futile.  You will be assimilated."

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 9:13 AM James Button via AccessD <
accessd at databaseadvisors.com> wrote:

> Remember -
> what -
> That the security of any tech device is annoyingly difficult to maintain
>
> First need will be encryption from within the communicating devices so
> that all
> text  is encrypted to at least 512 bit level
>  (MS has reported that it is moving from 256 bit encryption as that is now
> too
> easily and swiftly broken.)
>
> Also consider that there are many government associated organisations that
> will
> have 'backdoor's) available into a variety of components and facilities
> between
> the message conception, and it's complete erasure from the receiving
> device by
> the intended recipient.
>
>
> Remember the cookies settings where you said NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
> NO NO
> NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
> Well that certainly raises a flag from the site being told NO that you are
> secretive and want to hide your activities.
> And surely you really didn't believe they would not install monitoring
> cookies.
>
> Also - OK VPN's are supposed to be secure
> however who is going to assure you that their systems have not been
> back-doored,
>
> or even front-door'd using court orders.
>
> All that is needed is a small module of code monitoring  what outgoing VPN
> was
> assigned for use from which IP.
>
> Also consider - any connection will almost certainly expose your IP unless
> you
> are using relaying systems.
> and the x on the top right corner of a window pane
> consider what happens if you use that on a MsWord session or an Outlook
> session
> where you have been editing something
> Does the session just disappear - OK EDGE may do that, but note the
> messages
> when you restart the app !
> So - you believe that the person managing a web site ( may not be the
> owner, or
> the admin they authorised)
> cannot easily record details about you, and your system when you start to
> respond to the we need your authority to run cookies, or record who
> initiated
> the session, and from where ( as in your ISP ).
>
>
> Now, considering your phone that has your emails delivered to it, and from
> where
> you contact your devices at home,  when in the car, in the office, on
> public
> transport.
> Yup - all those IP's are collectable, as well as the model and serial  and
> presumably the access to the hub/modem/WiFi linking units.
>
> So - VPN  may make it a bit difficult for the recipient to identify you,
> and
> where you are
> but anyone with serious interest can probably identify you given a week or
> so
> for their intrusion to get at a device used, and then work back through the
> message store and forward logging chains
>
> Just take a look at the header details on this email as delivered to you!
>
> Then consider how secure a VPN makes your communications
> and are you sure the VPN  supplier is not actually a government run
> facility
> (As users of a "highly secure" communications facility recently found  -
> the
> encryption facility supplied for installation on their systems had a basic
> backdoor access facility built into it by what appears to have been a
> consortium
> of government agencies)
>
> JimB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD
> <accessd-bounces+jamesbutton=blueyonder.co.uk at databaseadvisors.com> On
> Behalf Of
> Gary Kjos
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 4:28 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VPN
>
> As long as you remember.
>
> GK
>
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 9:23 AM Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Quell there's a downside. Accessing my account on some sites, like Morgan
> > Stanley, the bank, credit cards, will stop me if they don't recognize my
> IP
> > and make me jump through hoops - responding to an email or entering a
> code
> > they send to my phone.  So that could be annoyingly inconvenient.
> >
> > But I suppose it's easy to turn off the VPN and turn it back on again?
> >
> > r
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 4:23 AM James Button via AccessD <
> > accessd at databaseadvisors.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The VPN can indicate to the accessed site that your ISP (and you) are
> in a
> > > particular country,
> > > as in you may be in Russia, but you can access banking sites in the USA
> > > as if
> > > you were in the USA and with appropriate id codes - a USA citizen.
> > > So - you keep a particular system id for access to the banking
> facility -
> > > as in
> > > not using a public device, but the one it has noted in it's security
> data
> > > on you.
> > >
> > > JimB
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AccessD
> > > <accessd-bounces+jamesbutton=blueyonder.co.uk at databaseadvisors.com> On
> > > Behalf Of
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:21 AM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VPN
> > >
> > > It would seem that a changing IP address would give you better
> security if
> > > you were trying to hide something.  What's the advantage of dedicated
> IP?
> > >
> > > And, of course, you have to trust the provider as they presumably know
> the
> > > link between your IP and the one they give you, yes?
> > >
> > > r
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 3:12 PM Stuart McLachlan <
> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > You will be seen as the IP address of the VPN server you connect
> through.
> > > >  Most VPN
> > > > providers generally have  pools of IP addresses in different
> countries.
> > > >
> > > > If you use a free service,   you will probably be seen as a different
> > > > address every time you
> > > > set up a VPN session.
> > > >
> > > > More expensive offerings do offer dedicated IP addresses.
> > > > Nord, CyberHost are two for example.  The latter describes the
> situation
> > > > quite well:
> > > > https://www.cyberghostvpn.com/en_US/dedicated-ip-vpn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 13 Nov 2021 at 14:54, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jim:
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know if the servers see you as a different IP address every
> > > > > time you use the VPN?
> > > > >
> > > > > r
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:54 PM Jim Dettman via AccessD <
> > > > > accessd at databaseadvisors.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rocky,
> > > > > >    Haven't used any myself, but Nord VPN:
> > > > > > https://nordvpn.com/
> > > > > >   Is one I see advertised frequently and it gets good reviews.
> Some
> > > > > >   of the
> > > > > > major anti-virus players (Trend, Norton) have VPN built-in, but
> they
> > > > > > may not be as feature rich as something like Nord.
> > > > > >   As far as "how it works", you turn it on, and all your internet
> > > > > >   traffic
> > > > > > runs through it to one of their servers, then out to the
> internet.
> > > > > > Thus you can make it appear you are located anywhere in the world
> > > > > > (that is with services that let you choose the server).
> > > > > > Jim.
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: AccessD On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 2:08 PM
> > > > > > To: Off Topic <dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers
> > > > > > discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>;
> List
> > > > > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [AccessD] VPN
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lear List(s):
> > > > > > I don't have a need for a VPN but I'd like to play with one just
> to
> > > > > > see how they work,
> > > > > > Any recommendations for the best free VPN?
> > > > > > r
> > > > > > AccessD mailing list
> >
>
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