[AccessD] Access 2021 accde (64 bit) incompatible with Access 2013 64 bit

Stuart McLachlan stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Tue Jan 4 15:14:59 CST 2022


How old are the WIn7 installations?   If they are not at least SP1, they wil only have ADO 
v6.0, not 6.1 :)

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/an-ado-application-does-not-run-on-down-level-op
erating-systems-after-you-recompile-it-on-a-computer-that-is-running-windows-7-sp-1-or-win
dows-server-2008-r2-sp-1-or-that-has-kb983246-installed-1c59dbe9-62c3-a063-2c48-49487
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On 4 Jan 2022 at 13:51, Ryan W wrote:

> Turns out the Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 6.1 Library was the
> culprit.
> 
> Even though the file C:\Program Files(X86)\Common
> Files\system\ado\msado15.dll exists on the Windows 7 machine, and I
> tried regsvr32 to register it (it said it registered) it was just a no
> go.
> 
> Going down to Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 2.6 Library seems to work
> for all clients thus far.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:30 PM James Button via AccessD <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com> wrote:
> 
> > Do the files need 'registering' for use  on those machines
> > Are they the same version as you have - MDF5 hash value?
> > Properties reports the "version" - but as that is a developer input
> > value,  that may not actually have been changed when the file
> > content did
> >
> > JimB
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AccessD <accessd-bounces+jamesbutton=
> > blueyonder.co.uk at databaseadvisors.com> On Behalf Of Ryan W
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 4:40 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <
> > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2021 accde (64 bit) incompatible with
> > Access 2013 64 bit
> >
> > Okay still running into this issue but in a different way:
> >
> > Older Windows 7 workstations 64- bit.  Running Office 2013 (32-bit)+
> > Access 2013 Runtime (32-bit).  Compiled on Windows Server 2019
> > (64-bit OS) + Office 2013 (32-bit)
> >
> > Same 2467 error with the JIT classes and the same wonky error with
> > my RibbonOpenForm code.   I can run the ACCDB error free, but the
> > compiled ACCDE throws errors only on these Windows 7 (64-bit),
> > Office 2013(32 bit) machines.
> >
> > Since they run the runtime I cannot open the VBA editor to check for
> > missing references but the referenced libraries on the development
> > machine exist on the workstation in the same physical locations on
> > the disk.
> >
> >
> > So we're on the same version of Access, same bit-ness but these
> > older machines are throwing a tizzy?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 7:18 AM Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > << What´s the skinny on the ODB handling? >>
> > >
> > > It's in here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-s-new-in-access-2019
> > -f52c5317-3494-4105-9c56-5a2abb8e0f87
> > >
> > > about halfway down.
> > >
> > >  Monaco was delayed, but there still have been improvements made
> > >  to the
> > > query editor.  There is now a find and replace feature, and you
> > > can directly open a table in either view (data or design), or
> > > choose "Size to Fit" in the shortcut menu so you can see the full
> > > table name and fields. That´s covered here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-s-new-in-access-2021
> > -2c5c0766-b22b-4b81-a222-a791a8b5b54b
> > >
> > >  and you can view a demo of those new features here:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4xTwmflTcI
> > >
> > > << The rest I knew about but still find that minimal for 8 years
> > > of development time between 2013 and 2021>>
> > >
> > >   There are other things as well, like the graphs and  a lot of
> > >   minor
> > > things you might not notice, like wider clickable areas in some of
> > > the UI elements.
> > >
> > >   Access 2016 didn't have much (most of the changes there were not
> > > visible), but everything since that has added significant features
> > > that
> > you
> > > do and I would not say they are minimal.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ryan Wehler
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 7:53 AM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <
> > > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Cc: Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2021 accde (64 bit) incompatible
> > > with
> > Access
> > > 2013 64 bit
> > >
> > > What´s the skinny on the ODB handling? The rest I knew about but
> > > still find that minimal for 8 years of development time between
> > > 2013 and 2021. We´ve yet to see the Monaco editor that was
> > > promised this year, too.
> > >
> > > Not sure I call the giant red streak along the top (since 2016?)
> > > much of
> > a
> > > UI refinement. In fact I had users come ask me how to get rid of
> > > it already.
> > >
> > > > On Dec 29, 2021, at 6:18 AM, Jim Dettman via AccessD <
> > > accessd at databaseadvisors.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, along with support for DateTime2 in SQL, more robust ODBC
> > connection
> > > > handling, a new Linked Table Manager, UI refinements, numerous
> > > improvements
> > > > in the SQL Editor, and quite a number of other things.
> > > >
> > > > Access has not been standing still by any means.
> > > >
> > > > Jim.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: AccessD On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 7:13 PM
> > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2021 accde (64 bit) incompatible
> > > > with
> > > Access
> > > > 2013 64 bit
> > > >
> > > > One major difference between 2013 and 2021 is the
> > > > LargeNumber/BigInt
> > data
> > > > type
> > > > introduced in 2016.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On 28 Dec 2021 at 8:15, Ryan W wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Okay fair enough. Your link does say that but Access has been
> > > >> so stale on the development front for some time that the
> > > >> differences between 2013 and 2021 are minimal AT BEST.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've installed Access 2013 64-bit on a VM and compiled it. I
> > > >> guess this will have to work for now.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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